BAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm sold!!! I'll bolt on a 3" dump pipe and it'll be complete.
My friend and I wanted to make a Val slant 6 with a 1/2" exhaust pipe for
each cylinder...no muffler...just each pipe straight through to the back,
and arrange them in firing order in a circle like a machine gun you see in
movies...then when you decelerate you should get machinegun-like flames out
the back...dont know how loud it would be though...the cops would usher you
straight over to the side of the road too.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Suck thru vs Blow thru turbos
> There's supposed to be some kit for N/A engines to give a BOV sound, they
> sell them along side fake brake discs and fake alloys in the 'Rice'
section
> I think ;)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Suck thru vs Blow thru turbos
>
>
> > If you're so obsessed with having the "ppssshhh" sound, hookup an air
> compressor to your clutch .... ??
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > You would have to put the BOV onto the section of tubing from the
turbo
> to
> > > the inlet manifold, as its the only section thats pressurised, but
> because
> > > this carries a fuel/air mix you can't vent it to atmosphere, it'd have
> to go
> > > back into the same inlet tract. You can buy recirculating BOV's from
> > > Turbosmart (TYPE III Plumback)for $360rrp or get an OE one from
somebody
> who
> > > wanted the ppssshhh.
> > >
> > > - Tom
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul W. J.
> > > Stanley
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 20 February 2001 9:31 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Suck thru vs Blow thru turbos
> > >
> > >
> > > How would the BOV work exactly on a suck through? How would you
> recirculate
> > > it?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Julian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:50 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Suck thru vs Blow thru turbos
> > >
> > >
> > > > I heard somewhere, i think here or the E15 list, that the A series
> gearbox
> > > > bellhousing lines up with the E15 only a couple of holes need
> elongating
> > > to fit.
> > > >
> > > > I figure its worth a try to see what can be done as i have the parts
> lying
> > > around..
> > > >
> > > > By Pssshh you are talking BOV? You could still run a BOV in suck
thru
> > > only it would
> > > > HAVE to be recirculating, so yeh, no Pssshh, but its an tight budget
> > > conversion so
> > > > no $$$ trust or turbosmart or whatever BOV anyway..
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > But the E15ET is E-W? For the 120Y you need a N-S motor?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom pretty much explained it. Another advantage of blow through is
> > > PSsshhhhh!
> > > > > though I am not installing one just yet. If you have any more
> questions
> > > about
> > > > > blow through I *should* be able to answer them! :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Blow through is much more expensive, but I'm hoping it has good
> > > advantages over
> > > > > suck through. I've only ever seen one blow through L-series 1600
> however
> > > I've
> > > > > seen probably over 10 suck through L series 1600. I think your
> choice
> > > comes
> > > > > down to the cost/difficulty. In my case I was lucky to pick up the
> blow
> > > through
> > > > > kit.
> > > > >
> > > > > zac
> > > > >
> > > > > > Blow thru, thats the word i was looking for :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeh EFI, would be nice but this is for a A12 motor and spending
as
> > > little $$$
> > > > > as
> > > > > > possible is the idea.. I have put off installing a turbo on my
> Astra
> > > (N12 E15
> > > > > > engine) for exactly that reason, because im trying to nut out
> > > programming an
> > > > > > engine mgmt system for the E15ET manifold I have..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Still considering a 120y with E15ET engine, that should be an
> > > interesting
> > > > > > project..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Julian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom Richardson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Julian,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One word: Intercooling
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With a blow through turbo (like zac's setup) you can cool the
> air
> > > charge
> > > > > > > before it mixes with fuel in the carby, with a suck through
> setup
> > > (like
> > > > > > > paddy's setup) you would have to cool a fuel/air charge- not a
> great
> > > idea!
> > > > > > > There are plenty of suck through turbo cars around though so
> they
> > > obviously
> > > > > > > work, one advantage is that you get a nicely mixed fuel/air
> charge I
> > > > > > > suppose.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But yea, suck through turbo's are much easier to do, because
you
> > > just treat
> > > > > > > the carby(s) like on a thirsty N/A motor. No pressurised fuel
> > > bowls, no
> > > > > > > high pressure fuel (you need boost pressure + ~5psi available
> for
> > > blow
> > > > > > > through) so you can use the standard pump and lines.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then again, intercooling may not be such a big draw card if
you
> only
> > > want to
> > > > > > > run low boost and don't have problems with detonation. As
> always,
> > > depends
> > > > > > > on how much power you're chasing
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Tom
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS, Remember (to quote Bill Kenyon from the Bluebirds list)
that
> > > there are
> > > > > > > two kinds of 510's, those that have EFI, and those that need
it
> :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Julian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: "OZDAT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:22 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Suck thru vs Draw thru turbos
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was wondering about the advantages and disavantages of
> running
> > > these
> > > > > > > > different types of setup.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Firstly i understand a suck thru setup is similar to Paddy's
> L16
> > > where
> > > > > > > > the carb is before the turbo. Draw thru is after the turbo?
> > > right?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyway as i can see suck thru is easier to setup, you could
> use
> > > existing
> > > > > > > > fuel regulators and pumps (as long as they supply the
greater
> > > demand for
> > > > > > > > fuel). The thing im curious with is running fuel through the
> hot
> > > > > > > > turbo. I take it this is ok because obviously its been done
> > > before and
> > > > > > > > proved to work but i still sceptical
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > With Draw thru you might not be able to use the existing
> carby,
> > > and if
> > > > > > > > you can it raises some sealing problems with the higher
> pressure
> > > fuel
> > > > > > > > you need to run to overcome the boost pressure. This also
> needs a
> > > high
> > > > > > > > pressure fuel pump and rising regulator plus a surge tank.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As i see it suck thru is heaps easier and cheaper... so what
> is
> > > the
> > > > > > > > disadvantage im not seeing??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > > - Julian
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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