Thanks Terry that's what I thought you meant. I'm still confused with the 4 pin plug that was used to connect to the back of the old alternator. The new one only has a provision for a 2 pin plug. Do I just bridge the wires on this one as well in the same fashion as your original post? i.e. Connect the Field (White/black) to White/red (dash light) Connect the Neutral (Yellow) to Active (White)
Thanks Daniel Kroehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Alternator wiring > > Daniel, > > The reg plug is an 8 or so pin connector at the external regulator that's > on the guard at the rear of the standard battery position. > > A Hitachi reg has a bunch of wires coming out of it and ~3" from it there's > a plug that's attached to the loom. Disconnect this plug and jumper the > wires as i said in the previous post on the loom side plug (female side). > > regards > Terry > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C1BE4A.26FC2280 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Thanks Terry, what I'm still unsure of is the which is the external reg = > > plug? Is this the plug which plugs into the back of my old alternator = > > or is this the actual plug that connects to the regulator? I remove the = > > old external regulator don't I ? Sorry for the questions, its just = > > that electrical side of cars tends to confuse the sh%t out of me! > > > > Cheers > > > > Daniel Kroehn > > =20 > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > From: Terry Rudd=20 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:30 PM > > Subject: RE: Alternator wiring > > > > > > Daniel, > > > > I'm pretty sure that you have a 23000-Rxxxx series alternator. There = > > are some variations of the terminal markings on these alternators so = > > I'll use generic terms for these. > > This alternator actually is pretty close to the Dime article, except = > > the article gets a bit fancy as they retain the external reg supposedly = > > so you can go back to an external reg - why would you want to. > > > > Alternator wiring with stock 1600 loom. > > Bat + > thick White/red stripe and suppressor pigtail if fitted > > Bat - > Black and suppressor body if fitted > > F(ield) | > White/black > > N(eutral) -- > Yellow > > > > Disconnect the external reg plug, you can make up some jumper wires = > > for neatness. > > Connect the Field (White/black) to White/red (dash light) > > Connect the Neutral (Yellow) to Active (White) > > > > Now for the tricky bit, some of these alternators have a quirk with = > > the reg that causes the Alt light to glow when the battery is fully = > > charged. It's a mystery as to why Hitachi did it but the fix was = > > discovered by an Ozdat lister with an FJ and I've used it a few times = > > and it works. What you need is an IN4004 or IN4007 diode installed in = > > the Field line. A diode is directional so you have to turn the ignition = > > on and check which way the light comes on (as it should) then start the = > > engine to make sure it goes out. I fit the diode up near the reg plug. > > > > hope it works for you, > > > > regards > > Terry > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Kroehn > > Sent: Monday, 25 February 2002 4:37 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Alternator wiring > > > > > > It's a hitachi unit that Errol sent me with the z18et. Basically it = > > has the sense and lamp connection on the back of it with the connectors = > > right angles to each other and two bolt style clamps for the +ve and -ve = > > (I think). > > > > Daniel Kroehn > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > From: Terry Rudd=20 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:52 AM > > Subject: RE: Alternator wiring > > > > > > Daniel, > > > > What year 1600 and what brand of alternator are you trying to wire = > > up. If it's a Hitachi then what's it off or what's the part number. The = > > Dime qtly article is to wire an early model Hitachi (non-EFI) say from a = > > 280Z. It was written a few years back and it's not correct for all = > > conversions. > > > > regards > > Terry > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Kroehn > > Sent: Monday, 25 February 2002 12:42 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Alternator wiring > > > > > > Hey guys, I'm just wring up my alternator but I am having a few = > > problems. My current wiring loom is setup for the external regualted = > > alternator and my new one is an internal reg unit. I read the article = > > on dime quarterly and I have no trouble actually removing the regulator = > > and rejoining wires there, but here's the prob: The old alternator has = > > a four plug connection to the alternator whereas the new one has a sense = > > and lamp wire in a "T" connector config. So how do I change the four = > > plug connector to suit the 2 plug "T" connector? > > > > Cheers > > > > Daniel Kroehn > > > > > > = > > --membersozdat-------------------------------------------------------=20 > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:-=20 > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > No unauthorised redistribution of this email=20 > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm=20 > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html=20 > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/=20 > > = > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > = > > --membersozdat-------------------------------------------------------=20 > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:-=20 > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > No unauthorised redistribution of this email=20 > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm=20 > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html=20 > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/=20 > > = > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > = > > --membersozdat-------------------------------------------------------=20 > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:-=20 > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > No unauthorised redistribution of this email=20 > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm=20 > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html=20 > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/=20 > > = > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --membersozdat-------------------------------------------------------=20 > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:-=20 > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > No unauthorised redistribution of this email=20 > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm=20 > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html=20 > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/=20 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C1BE4A.26FC2280 > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > > <HTML><HEAD> > > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR> > > <STYLE></STYLE> > > </HEAD> > > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Terry, what I'm still unsure of = > > is the which=20 > > is the external reg plug? Is this the plug which plugs = > > into the=20 > > back of my old alternator or is this the actual plug that connects = > > to the=20 > > regulator? I remove the old external regulator don't I = > > ? Sorry=20 > > for the questions, its just that electrical side of cars tends to = > > confuse the=20 > > sh%t out of me!</FONT></DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Daniel Kroehn</FONT></DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV> > > <BLOCKQUOTE=20 > > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = > > BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> > > <DIV=20 > > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = > > black"><B>From:</B>=20 > > <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>Terry=20 > > Rudd</A> </DIV> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > = > > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]= > > m.au</A>=20 > > </DIV> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 25, 2002 = > > 9:30=20 > > PM</DIV> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Alternator = > > wiring</DIV> > > <DIV><BR></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>Daniel,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I'm=20 > > pretty sure that you have a 23000-Rxxxx series alternator. There are = > > some=20 > > variations of the terminal markings on these alternators so I'll use = > > generic=20 > > terms for these.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>This=20 > > alternator actually is pretty close to the Dime article, except the = > > article=20 > > gets a bit fancy as they retain the external reg supposedly so you can = > > go back=20 > > to an external reg - why would you want to.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>Alternator wiring with stock 1600 loom.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Bat=20 > > + </FONT> <FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>> thick = > > White/red=20 > > stripe and suppressor pigtail if fitted</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Bat=20 > > - > Black and suppressor body if fitted</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>F(ield) | > White/black</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>N(eutral) -- > Yellow</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>Disconnect the external reg plug, you can make up some = > > jumper=20 > > wires for neatness.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>Connect the Field (White/black) to White/red (dash=20 > > light)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>Connect the Neutral (Yellow) to Active = > > (White)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Now=20 > > for the tricky bit, some of these alternators have a quirk with the = > > reg that=20 > > causes the Alt light to glow when the battery is fully charged. = > > It's a=20 > > mystery as to why Hitachi did it but the fix was discovered by an = > > Ozdat lister=20 > > with an FJ and I've used it a few times and it works. What you need is = > > an=20 > > IN4004 or IN4007 diode installed in the Field line. A diode is = > > directional so=20 > > you have to turn the ignition on and check which way the light comes = > > on (as it=20 > > should) then start the engine to make sure it goes out. I fit the = > > diode up=20 > > near the reg plug.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>hope=20 > > it works for you,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>Terry</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D770293310-25022002><FONT size=3D2><FONT = > > face=3DArial=20 > > color=3D#0000ff></FONT> </DIV></FONT></SPAN> > > <BLOCKQUOTE> > > <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = > > face=3DTahoma=20 > > size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<B>On Behalf Of = > > </B>Daniel=20 > > Kroehn<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 25 February 2002 4:37 = > > PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Alternator=20 > > wiring<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's a hitachi unit that Errol sent = > > me with the=20 > > z18et. Basically it has the sense and lamp connection on the = > > back of=20 > > it with the connectors right angles to each other and two bolt style = > > clamps=20 > > for the +ve and -ve (I think).</FONT></DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Daniel Kroehn</FONT></DIV> > > <BLOCKQUOTE=20 > > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = > > BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = > > </DIV> > > <DIV=20 > > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = > > black"><B>From:</B>=20 > > <A [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>Terry Rudd</A> </DIV> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > > = > > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]= > > m.au</A>=20 > > </DIV> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 25, = > > 2002 11:52=20 > > AM</DIV> > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Alternator = > > wiring</DIV> > > <DIV><BR></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D840314701-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>Daniel,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D840314701-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D840314701-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>What year 1600 and what brand of alternator are you = > > trying to wire=20 > > up. If it's a Hitachi then what's it off or what's the part = > > number. The=20 > > Dime qtly article is to wire an early model Hitachi (non-EFI) say = > > from a=20 > > 280Z. It was written a few years back and it's not correct for all = > > > > conversions.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D840314701-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D840314701-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <DIV><SPAN class=3D840314701-25022002><FONT face=3DArial = > > color=3D#0000ff=20 > > size=3D2>Terry</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > > <BLOCKQUOTE> > > <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = > > face=3DTahoma=20 > > size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20 > > = > > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>membersozdat_owner@d= > > atascribe.com.au</A>=20 > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<B>On Behalf Of = > > </B>Daniel=20 > > Kroehn<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 25 February 2002 12:42 = > > AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Alternator=20 > > wiring<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys, I'm just wring up my = > > alternator=20 > > but I am having a few problems. My current wiring loom is = > > setup=20 > > for the external regualted alternator and my new one is an = > > internal reg=20 > > unit. I read the article on dime quarterly and I = > > have no=20 > > trouble actually removing the regulator and rejoining wires = > > there, but=20 > > here's the prob: The old alternator has a four plug = > > connection to=20 > > the alternator whereas the new one has a sense and lamp wire in = > > a "T"=20 > > connector config. So how do I change the four plug = > > connector to=20 > > suit the 2 plug "T" connector?</FONT></DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Daniel Kroehn</FONT></DIV> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20 > > = > > size=3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>--membersozdat---------------------------= > > ----------------------------=20 > > <BR>OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- <BR>Send (un)subscribe = > > requests to=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <BR>Send submissions to=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <BR>No unauthorised = > > redistribution of=20 > > this email <BR>http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm=20 > > <BR>http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html=20 > > <BR>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/=20 > > = > > <BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------= > > </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>--membersozdat------------------------------------------= > > -------------=20 > > <BR>OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- <BR>Send (un)subscribe = > > requests to=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <BR>Send submissions to=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <BR>No unauthorised redistribution = > > of this=20 > > email <BR>http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm=20 > > <BR>http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html=20 > > <BR>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/=20 > > = > > <BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------= > > </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>--membersozdat------------------------------------------= > > -------------=20 > > <BR>OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- <BR>Send (un)subscribe requests = > > to=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <BR>Send submissions to=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <BR>No unauthorised redistribution of = > > this=20 > > email <BR>http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm=20 > > <BR>http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html=20 > > <BR>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/=20 > > = > > <BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------= > > </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>--membersozdat------------------------------------------= > > -------------=20 > > <BR>OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- <BR>Send (un)subscribe requests = > > to=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <BR>Send submissions to=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <BR>No unauthorised redistribution of = > > this=20 > > email <BR>http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm=20 > > <BR>http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html=20 > > <BR>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/=20 > > = > > <BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------= > > </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C1BE4A.26FC2280-- > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
