Leighton, There's not all that much cutting to do but if it's a concern to you fit a SR or CA. The DR30 engine is the problem with it's bigger manifolds but most ppl want it due to it's higher output. The Silvia/Gazelle version does fit a lot better under a 1600 and you don't have to cut/massage the firewall. Jake left the EGR pipe on his but we lose that or "biff it" in Kiwi speak. The FJ is a fair bit of work but it's well documented and fairly routine. The fitting kits are sold with all of the other modifications so everything is disclosed before you buy. Most ppl I know bought their FJ before the even contemplated the fitting difficulties.
regards Terry -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leighton Sent: Thursday, 14 March 2002 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits after reading about sticking a fj20det intoa 1600 it sounds like ther is a fair bit of cutting involved? i dont want to do this is ther any way i can avoid doing so much cutting??? for example - custom manifold so i dont have cut the firewall and why do i alway readabout the various fitting kits being the best way to go but then people having to modify them to make the fitting kits to fit???? why the hell is that?/ shouldnt a fitting kit fit???? thanx leighton ----- Original Message ----- From: "andrew smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits > Terry, > Going on that calculation i would definately say that it is Nm.I have driven > many cars that have a higher factory torque rating than 245Nm and mine has a lot > more torque than that.The mechanical advantage of using 3rd gear with a 3.9 > ratio diff on a dyno can be huge when it comes to measuring torque.If i wanted > to work out the flywheel torque figure i could find the rwhp figure at the point > of maximum torque(228rwhp@5300rpm) do a rough estimate of what that would equate > to at the flywheel and work the torque out from there. > Andrew Smith > > Terry Rudd wrote: > > > Tom, > > > > I think you're on the money here. > > There are ~4.54 Newtons to a lb/ft and ~1.3 lb/ft in a Nm so 800 Newtons is > > ~245Nm > > > > TR > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Richardson > > Sent: Wednesday, 13 March 2002 12:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > > > Andrew, > > > > Are you sure that's not 750 Newtons? 750Nm at the wheels would be > > enough torque to tow a semi trailer! > > > > All dyno torque figures quoted in Newtons are next to useless, you can > > only use them to compare changes from one engine setup to the next > > (arguably all that dyno's should be used for) > > > > The only way to find standard torque figures (Nm or ft-lb) is to > > reference the dyno sheet and back-calculate the torque figure. IE Say > > your torque curve peaks at 4000rpm, reference the power curve to find > > the number of kilowatts/horsepower produced at 4000rpm, then use the > > rpm/power/torque relationship to find the REAL peak torque figure (that > > you can use for desktop drag racing :) > > > > Cheers, > > > > - Tom > > > > andrew smith wrote: > > > > > Leighton, > > > That torque figure is a dyno rear wheel figure which needs to be > > > calculated back.Most dynos have a different formula for calculating > > > this as depends on roller dia,tyre dia and gearing.My L20 turbo made > > > something like 750Nm at the wheels. > > > Andrew Smith > > > > > > Leighton wrote: > > > > > >> That website www.fj20.cjb.net <http://www.fj20.cjb.net> has anrticle > > >> on rebuilding the fj20 and it show you some minor mods - and a few > > >> other hints etc but it doesnt go into specifics about turbo or > > >> intercooler?? etc - but at the end they reckon they got 216hp at the > > >> wheels and 680Nm of torque now thats a gob load of toque but does > > >> any one think that figure sounds a bit high??? Thanx Leighton > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > >> * From:* Leighton <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > >> * To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > >> * Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:24 PM > > >> > > >> * Subject:* Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > >> > > >> the ca makes225Nm of torque??? Leighton > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > >> * From:* Ben <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > >> * To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > >> * Sent:* Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:40 AM > > >> > > >> * Subject:* Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > >> > > >> dont in standard form, the FJ and CA make the same amount > > >> torque?? > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > >> * From:* Leighton <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > >> * To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > >> * Sent:* Sunday, March 10, 2002 1:52 AM > > >> > > >> * Subject:* Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > >> > > >> thanx for that - im not really interested in the SR - > > >> to pricey - and yes ill prolly do a ca one day but i > > >> want some torque and think for reliabilty and gob loads > > >> of power the FJ is the way to go all i need to know is > > >> which one to go with i know there are few to choose > > >> from thanx Leighton > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > >> * From:* Terry Rudd <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > >> * To:* Ozdat List > > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > >> * Sent:* Sunday, March 10, 2002 8:26 PM > > >> > > >> * Subject:* RE: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > >> > > >> FJ/CA/SR kits are available from SSS Automotive and > > >> Maddat. The SSS FJ kit is fine for a manual body, > > >> mine has been used/copied quite a few times and we've > > >> never had a problem. The rear trannie mount is where > > >> there are subtle differences in the kits. If I was > > >> doing a turbo conversion in 2002 instead if 1993, I'd > > >> be looking at the SR or if I was on a budget the CA. > > >> The CA is the most under rated turbo conversion and > > >> seen as a bit woosy for a 1600 but they are strong & > > >> reliable. regards Terry > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> *From:* Leighton [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > > >> *Sent:* Sunday, 10 March 2002 6:12 PM > > >> *To:* Terry Rudd > > >> *Subject:* FJ20DET fitting Kits > > >> > > >> > > >> What kits are available for fitting an FJ20 det > > >> into a 1600 and what experiences have people had > > >> with them? and for that matter should i want to > > >> stick an FJ20det into my 1600 which engine is > > >> best to get - i know there are couple different > > >> engines you can get from different cars but if i > > >> wanted to do some work on a fj20det which is the > > >> best engine to get and what are the > > >> differences Thanx Leighton > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------- > > ------------ > > >> > > >> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > >> Send (un)subscribe requests to > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > >> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------ > > >> > > >> > > --membersozdat----------------------------------------------- > > -------- > > >> > > >> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > >> Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------- > > >> > > >> > > --membersozdat--------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > >> > > >> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > >> Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > >> > > >> > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > >> Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >> > > >> --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > >> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > >> Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
