so fitting custom manifold would mean i WOULDNT have to massage the firewall???
and what is ther EGR pipe??? what do you mean you lose it thanx Leighton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:04 PM Subject: RE: FJ20DET fitting Kits > Leighton, > > There's not all that much cutting to do but if it's a concern to you fit a > SR or CA. The DR30 engine is the problem with it's bigger manifolds but most > ppl want it due to it's higher output. The Silvia/Gazelle version does fit a > lot better under a 1600 and you don't have to cut/massage the firewall. Jake > left the EGR pipe on his but we lose that or "biff it" in Kiwi speak. The FJ > is a fair bit of work but it's well documented and fairly routine. The > fitting kits are sold with all of the other modifications so everything is > disclosed before you buy. Most ppl I know bought their FJ before the even > contemplated the fitting difficulties. > > regards > Terry > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leighton > Sent: Thursday, 14 March 2002 3:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > > after reading about sticking a fj20det intoa 1600 it sounds like ther is a > fair bit of cutting involved? i dont want to do this is ther any way i can > avoid doing so much cutting??? > > > for example - custom manifold so i dont have cut the firewall and why do i > alway readabout the various fitting kits being the best way to go but then > people having to modify them to make the fitting kits to fit???? why the > hell is that?/ shouldnt a fitting kit fit???? > > thanx > > leighton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "andrew smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:25 AM > Subject: Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > > > Terry, > > Going on that calculation i would definately say that it is Nm.I have > driven > > many cars that have a higher factory torque rating than 245Nm and mine has > a lot > > more torque than that.The mechanical advantage of using 3rd gear with a > 3.9 > > ratio diff on a dyno can be huge when it comes to measuring torque.If i > wanted > > to work out the flywheel torque figure i could find the rwhp figure at the > point > > of maximum torque(228rwhp@5300rpm) do a rough estimate of what that would > equate > > to at the flywheel and work the torque out from there. > > Andrew Smith > > > > Terry Rudd wrote: > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > I think you're on the money here. > > > There are ~4.54 Newtons to a lb/ft and ~1.3 lb/ft in a Nm so 800 Newtons > is > > > ~245Nm > > > > > > TR > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Richardson > > > Sent: Wednesday, 13 March 2002 12:38 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > > > > > Andrew, > > > > > > Are you sure that's not 750 Newtons? 750Nm at the wheels would be > > > enough torque to tow a semi trailer! > > > > > > All dyno torque figures quoted in Newtons are next to useless, you can > > > only use them to compare changes from one engine setup to the next > > > (arguably all that dyno's should be used for) > > > > > > The only way to find standard torque figures (Nm or ft-lb) is to > > > reference the dyno sheet and back-calculate the torque figure. IE Say > > > your torque curve peaks at 4000rpm, reference the power curve to find > > > the number of kilowatts/horsepower produced at 4000rpm, then use the > > > rpm/power/torque relationship to find the REAL peak torque figure (that > > > you can use for desktop drag racing :) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > - Tom > > > > > > andrew smith wrote: > > > > > > > Leighton, > > > > That torque figure is a dyno rear wheel figure which needs to be > > > > calculated back.Most dynos have a different formula for calculating > > > > this as depends on roller dia,tyre dia and gearing.My L20 turbo made > > > > something like 750Nm at the wheels. > > > > Andrew Smith > > > > > > > > Leighton wrote: > > > > > > > >> That website www.fj20.cjb.net <http://www.fj20.cjb.net> has anrticle > > > >> on rebuilding the fj20 and it show you some minor mods - and a few > > > >> other hints etc but it doesnt go into specifics about turbo or > > > >> intercooler?? etc - but at the end they reckon they got 216hp at the > > > >> wheels and 680Nm of torque now thats a gob load of toque but does > > > >> any one think that figure sounds a bit high??? Thanx Leighton > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> > > > >> * From:* Leighton <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > >> * To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > >> * Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:24 PM > > > >> > > > >> * Subject:* Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > > >> > > > >> the ca makes225Nm of torque??? Leighton > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> > > > >> * From:* Ben <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > >> * To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > >> * Sent:* Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:40 AM > > > >> > > > >> * Subject:* Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > > >> > > > >> dont in standard form, the FJ and CA make the same amount > > > >> torque?? > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> > > > >> * From:* Leighton <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > >> * To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > >> * Sent:* Sunday, March 10, 2002 1:52 AM > > > >> > > > >> * Subject:* Re: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > > >> > > > >> thanx for that - im not really interested in the SR - > > > >> to pricey - and yes ill prolly do a ca one day but i > > > >> want some torque and think for reliabilty and gob loads > > > >> of power the FJ is the way to go all i need to know is > > > >> which one to go with i know there are few to choose > > > >> from thanx Leighton > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> > > > >> * From:* Terry Rudd <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > >> * To:* Ozdat List > > > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > >> * Sent:* Sunday, March 10, 2002 8:26 PM > > > >> > > > >> * Subject:* RE: FJ20DET fitting Kits > > > >> > > > >> FJ/CA/SR kits are available from SSS Automotive and > > > >> Maddat. The SSS FJ kit is fine for a manual body, > > > >> mine has been used/copied quite a few times and we've > > > >> never had a problem. The rear trannie mount is where > > > >> there are subtle differences in the kits. If I was > > > >> doing a turbo conversion in 2002 instead if 1993, I'd > > > >> be looking at the SR or if I was on a budget the CA. > > > >> The CA is the most under rated turbo conversion and > > > >> seen as a bit woosy for a 1600 but they are strong & > > > >> reliable. regards Terry > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> *From:* Leighton [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > > > >> *Sent:* Sunday, 10 March 2002 6:12 PM > > > >> *To:* Terry Rudd > > > >> *Subject:* FJ20DET fitting Kits > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> What kits are available for fitting an FJ20 det > > > >> into a 1600 and what experiences have people had > > > >> with them? and for that matter should i want to > > > >> stick an FJ20det into my 1600 which engine is > > > >> best to get - i know there are couple different > > > >> engines you can get from different cars but if i > > > >> wanted to do some work on a fj20det which is the > > > >> best engine to get and what are the > > > >> differences Thanx Leighton > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------- > > > ------------ > > > >> > > > >> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > >> Send (un)subscribe requests to > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > >> > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------ > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --membersozdat----------------------------------------------- > > > -------- > > > >> > > > >> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > >> Send (un)subscribe requests to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------- > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --membersozdat--------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > > > >> > > > >> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > >> Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > > > >> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > >> Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > >> Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
