Besides that, most cheap tubing materials have a seam in them so they are
prone to failure under really high pressures, ie they split open .  The
proper steel brake line is seamless and doesn't suffer from this problem.

Daniel Kroehn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Brake lines


> Mark,
>
> Think of the number of cycles of pressure/force the brake lines are
> subjected to during the lifetime of your car. Although the lines dont
> 'move', these (quite substantial) pressure loadings could slowly
> fatigue or harden the lines to the point of rupture if a material is
> chosen which doesnt have high fatigue strength.
>
> Andrew
>
> > Is that only relevant when bending to form shape!
> >
> > Once in shape it shouldn't be moving so what makes it harden?
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Sandejas, Ignacio
> >   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >   Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:02 PM
> >   Subject: RE: Brake lines
> >
> >
> >   something about work hrdening because they are so soft that they
eventually fracture. Like when you ben a bit of metal back and forth, it
eventually work hardens then breaks...
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: Mark O'Conner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >     Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 4:55 PM
> >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     Subject: Re: Brake lines
> >
> >
> >     Fracturing where? At the flared point or generally?
> >
> >     I can't see how
> >       ----- Original Message -----
> >       From: mark krawczuk
> >       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >       Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 4:39 PM
> >       Subject: Re: Brake lines
> >
> >
> >       hi, yes its too soft. and  a someone else stated some time ago ,
its more prone to fracturi
> ng?
> >
> >         mark k
> >         ----- Original Message -----
> >         From: Mark O'Conner
> >         To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >         Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:51 PM
> >         Subject: Re: Brake lines
> >
> >
> >         Is thee a major problem with making the lines out of copper?
> >           ----- Original Message -----
> >           From: Sandejas, Ignacio
> >           To: Ozdat (E-mail)
> >           Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:35 PM
> >           Subject: Brake lines
> >
> >
> >           Guys,
> >
> >           Went to get my steel lines done for my rear discs today. Got
quoted $54
> >           bucks to have the two ends of my brake line flared with
fittings! He was
> >           gonna charge me $88 to have new ones made out of copper! I
made the line out
> >           of some left over bundy tube that I had. He took one look at
it and said
> >           that he wouldn't guarantee if the flare cracked because the
material was all
> >           wrong! He then suggested copper brake lines. I thought copper
was the wrong
> >           material to use. I politely said thanks and left.
> >
> >           Do you guys reckon he's bumped up the price because he didn't
want to do it?
> >           It doesn't really matter because I got hold of a flare tool
that does double
> >           flares. Just need to get the fittings. Does Pirtek ,etc carry
those
> >           fittings, or do I have to go to a brake shop?
> >
> >           Thanks
> >           Ignacio Sandejas
> >           NCR Retail Helpdesk
> >           > *    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >           > *    Level 11 8-20 Napier St North Sydney NSW 2060
> >           * Retail Helpdesk   1300 658 686
> >           * Direct           (02) 9935 3784
> >
> >
> >
> >
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