They were known as eccentric camber adjusters in my day, very popular on 180B and the like to correct +ve camber - Nissan came out with the offset top plates which are much safer. I only ever used them once in a 180B as they were cheap but they always came loose - one day we were out in the bush somewhere and noticed that one had obviously come loose so we tippee toed into town to borrow a pit - when tightening them up well bugga me the 3/4" socket exploded and that was the end of that - so we adjusted the camber to where we wanted it and then oxyed the buggers in place - they never came loose ever again, and the camber never moved either on that car until we sold it but it's not the recommended solution.
regards Terry -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of maldat Sent: Wednesday, 4 December 2002 2:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rally question The ones for doing the front camber or is it caster?. the ones with the off set washers built in. malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:08 PM Subject: Re: Rally question > What front bolts do you mean? I thought you just set up your camber on the > slotted rear cross member and using large washers either side of the slots, > you just tack weld each washer to the cross member to stop things moving. > Unless you are changing the camber on a weekly basis this is the way to go, > surely? > Got that tip out of the Dime Quarterly magazine. > > Rob P > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:13 AM > Subject: Re: Rally question > > > > Nasty crash dude. > > > > I have looked at himen joints and eyelet ajustable dofers at speed shops > and > > when i ask about the free play in them they so they dont have any,then I > ask > > this new one does?O that should be their they reply ....I've looked a > couple > > of times at different places but always can pick up a sloppy one.... > > I'm sticking with factory Nissan parts. > > If you wanna have ajustable rear end,The front bolts from a vailant or > > falcon ,do work with slotted holes,but can/do come loose (hey but so do > the > > factory ones) > > Malcolm > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sandejas, Ignacio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:42 AM > > Subject: RE: Rally question > > > > > > > These camber pins for the lower control arm... > > > > > > Are they bad for road use?? > > > > > > I've seen you guys make the point a few times but I was curious if that > > was > > > just for competition only, that the problems occur? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brad Hallett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 9:47 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: Rally question > > > > > > > > > In 15 years I have destroyed 3 P510 shells and one Subaru RX turbo in > > > rallies. The first car I rolled was end for end and I had a 2 inch 4 > > > point harness with bolt in aluminium cage. After that first experience I > > > refuse to race a car unless it has weld in steel cage with intrusion > > > bars and a 3 inch 5 point harness. The 2 inch harness cut my shoulders > > > and stretched during each impact and the cage flexed and moved with the > > > crush of the pillars, very dangerous. Interesting point is that crash > > > was caused by an adjustable lower control arm pin breaking as I pulled > > > 5th on a long straight. Don't use these adjustable camber pins they are > > > accidents waiting to happen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of nat P. > > > Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 3:31 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: Rally question > > > > > > > > > Well I got the 5 point ( Cos they are cool!!) And for > > > safety reasons.... Hmmm anywoo, I would say definitely > > > a no no BUT other people will say they are O.K... BUT > > > Na! I dont believe so, They are cheap shit!! > > > Cheers NAT > > > > > > > > > --- "HARVEY,Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Rightyo I'll definitely take note of that. When you > > > > say only use 3inch > > > > harnesses, does that mean the 2inch harnesses are a > > > > definate no no...? > > > > Also is it worthwhile getting the 5 point so I can > > > > have the crutch strap > > > > (for safety reasons of course).. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: nat P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:12 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: Rally question > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to! BUT its just too far away!!! We only > > > > do > > > > the state and Club rounds, (VRC, VCRS). The cost of > > > > running these is fairly HUGE!! Driving that far is > > > > just out of our budget. > > > > > > > > The only thing I do recommend is that you buy THE > > > > BEST > > > > you can afford!!!! Cos if you dont you end up buying > > > > things twice!!!! (Like it did!!!) Eg. Dont buy > > > > pedders > > > > or Munroe, BUY koni! ONCE!!! It will cost you more > > > > now > > > > BUT save you thousands later!!!!! > > > > > > > > Dont worry too much about the engine! Spend your > > > > money > > > > on suspension and safety gear! E.G Harnesses, BUY 3 > > > > inch only!! Non plastic buckle type(The metal type!) > > > > > > > > You've got the brakes, so you are sweet! Use Metal > > > > kings in the front and rear! > > > > Buy the BEST CAGE YOU CAN GET!!!!!! PROFESSIONAL > > > > WELDED IN ONLY!!!! -Approx $2000 > > > > Remember its your life!!! Your body!!!! I've rolled > > > > a > > > > couple of times and I'll tell ya each time I'm glad > > > > I > > > > spent the money!!!!! > > > > > > > > Run with this for a long as you can and save/ build > > > > a > > > > new motor on the side!!! > > > > > > > > That way you are doing everything!! > > > > Cheers NAT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "HARVEY,Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks Nat. I wont be at the BBQ Thursday as I live > > > > > in Canberra, it > > > > > would be a fair whack of mileage considering I > > > > would > > > > > have to be back at > > > > > work on Friday morning!:) Do you do many > > > > interstate > > > > > rallies? Ie, the > > > > > Nat Cap rally in Canberra??? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: nat P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:22 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: RE: Rally question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Na!!!! Try to keep the car as basic as possible, > > > > for > > > > > the less things you have, the less things that you > > > > > can break!!!! Are you > > > > > coming to the BBQ on Thursday night? It's in > > > > > MELBOURNE?? Cos I'll be > > > > > there will my rally car and I'll answer every > > > > > question for you! > > > > > > > > > > BUT to answer your first question... You can do > > > > > without them!!.. For awhile.. hehehe > > > > > Build the car in this order!! > > > > > 1. Safety > > > > > 2. brakes > > > > > 3. Suspenion > > > > > 4. 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