Thats a pretty good idea with the sniffer. I would just write one that logged all the data passing from handset to computer, see the sequence of keypresses they entered, and you should be able to see them entering the password at one stage. I built one for computer keyboards that did the same thing once, they arent too hard. You would need to make sure you had enough memory to store all the keypresses though, I imagine there is quite a few in setting a map.
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David Andrews wrote: > One way that springs to mind ( with a few conditions of course ) > > Put a sniffer on the serial port that you are using to communicate with > the computer. > Then (without changing anything else) set a password you know. > Investigate the binary/hex that went across the wire looking for some > representation (ASCII/Unicode) of the password. > I imagine there will be a single bit somewhere which indicates whether > the password is set or not. > Determine which this is (should be the only difference between a password > set update and a regular update). > Write a fair simple program which sets ONLY this bit on the chip to > false(0). > > Take it and get it tuned. > Run your program to unset the password bit. > > Of course this is assuming the password checking smarts are in the tuning > software. Otherwise the chip will ask you for the password when you try > to unset the ``password set'' bit. > > Afraid my knowledge of electronics is severely limited so that might not > even be possible. Pete? All? > > Regards, > > Dave > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > On 4/3/03, 9:24:54 AM, "james wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > regarding RE: pic: > > > > I'm sure there would be a way to hack into the actual ECU and derive the > > password from it. There would have to be. > > > -James > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geordie > > Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 7:13 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: pic > > Importance: High > > > No, it goes awol after a certain number of tries. > > Your best shot is to go into allens with a gun and ask for the password. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mark krawczuk > > Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 12:34 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: pic > > > > i wonder if theres some way to hack into it? > > > mark k > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Zac Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:38 PM > > Subject: Re: pic > > > > > Yeah I can understand that.. > > > but do you remember Scott that had the SR20 bluebird that allen's > > fitted > > the > > > Autronic to? he didn't want to pay for an engine dyno session so they > > put > > a > > > map, and a password, on it. the thing could hardly cut 100kw at the > > wheels > > > yet he couldn't get the map refined on a chassis dyno because Allens > > would > > > not give him the password! > > > if I paid for a map I'd want to be able to see it too. > > > > > > two schools of thought, I suppose. > > > > > > zac > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "andrew smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: pic > > > > > > > > > > They do it so knowone can use there maps as they believe they are > > superior > > > > because they have have been done on an engine dyno.A few of the top > > level > > > > tuners do it. > > > > > > > > Zac Campbell wrote: > > > > > > > > > not personally, but I know several people that have allens tuned > > > Autronics > > > > > and they don't give out the password, not even to the owner of the > > > ECU... > > > > > make what you will of it, but I wouldn't want an ECU that I > > couldn't > > > fiddle > > > > > with or have tuned by somebody else. > > > > > > > > > > zac > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "mark krawczuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:27 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: pic > > > > > > > > > > > hey , funny u mention that, when i was getting the map > > changed > > at > > > > > allen > > > > > > eng, they said "i `ll put a password on it so .......nothing > > can > > get > > > > > > accidently? changed,........" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have u had a similair experiance zac? > > > > > > > > > > > > mark k > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Zac Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:41 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: pic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Mark, have Allan Eng put a password on your Autronic ECU? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > zac > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "mark krawczuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:34 AM > > > > > > > Subject: pic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi, here is the pic of my sr20. > > > > > > > > its been load to members area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link is: > > > > > > > > /usr/home/ozdat/members/uploads/sr20eng.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think theres sume stuff thats gotta go before it, so if > > someone > > > can > > > > > > fix > > > > > > > > it up please............................................. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mark k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
