Oops... clicked send too fast. Anyway, how did Trent offer to sell parts below dealer cost!? What happened here? And what kind of references did we have for this guy? Who vouched for him? Maybe an explanation is in order, no?
Jaime On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Jaime Kopchinski <jaime...@gmail.com>wrote: > I can understand your desire for more proof Hendrick. But this is a > pretty ugly road to go down and certainly doesn't belong here. > > What happened in the past is the past. Its was ugly. It created a lot of > bad feelings. It was bad for business, bad for our community, and bad for > many individuals. None of us will know all the sides of the story and the > details of what happened. And many of you wouldn't want to hear it. And > boy how things have changed since then. > > My point is simple: don't believe everything that you've been told from > one side. You don't believe everything from the extreme right or left talk > radio, do you? (hint: you shouldn't) > > Looks like we have more pro-gary folks than anti-gary at this point. The > anti-gary folks are holding on to a one-sided story In the end and some > hurt feelings about being called some names Doesn't everyone just want a > reliable source of good parts? The pro-gary folks are enjoying good > service, good parts, and good knowledge. Sounds like the kind of guy who > should be part of this group, no? > > I understand the loyalty to Rusty in the past. He did a lot for many of > us, hosted parties, helped establish the sense of community we have here > (or, whats left of it now). Now Rusty is no longer here for us in that > role due to a business decision that we can all understand. It was the > right time to move on. The need for loyalty has past. In fact, shouldn't > someone be questioning how it is that Rusty came to make a deal with Trent > at all? > > I know if I were selling a business, I'd be looking for an agreement that > protected my interests. And the buyer should do the same. Check the > books, reputation, relationships, etc. > > Something doesn't add to up to me. I've seen several mentions of Trent > selling for amazingly low prices... genuine parts for more than 40% off of > list. (which isn't possible, unless you happen to own a Mercedes Benz > Sounded too good to be true. > > Jaime > > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Hendrik and Fay <heni...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Well Trent may be acting illegally and he may be a less than honest >> business man, based on what I have read from others experiences. >> However does this give give Gary the right to accuse him of an planned >> scheme to steal and also imply that Rusty has had a part in that? >> That's what a supposed honest businessman has done, accusing someone of >> improper and or illegal dealings without proof. Is this slander? >> >> The fact is that I stand to gain nothing from this whereas it is in Garys >> interest to discredit his opposition, whether he has proof or just heard a >> few stories does not seem to matter. >> Are these the actions of a professional and supposed good man? >> Sure Gary might be good at what he does, heck he even himself says so, so >> it must be true. Perhaps that is a cultural difference but up here if you >> start going on about how good you are people will think you're a bit of a >> wally. >> I know a few people who will happily spend a few hours telling you how >> good they are and that makes for fascinating conversation. >> >> I don't know the details of the divorce but I do know it spilt over into >> this list and it turned pretty ugly. And no I can't understand his actions, >> what did this list have to do with the split? >> If I was in his shoes and wanted to sell car parts to owners I would not >> be abusing my customers, instead be dealing with the situation privately, >> basically I think he threw a big tantrum in public, sure it might not have >> been the best part of his life but sometimes you just got walk away and >> cool off for a while. >> >> The question here is not who started the list or what have you not, the >> point here is that Gary is not a good man, he is bitter individual who is >> hell bent on revenge. >> Of course sure I am making a terrible mistake and Gary is the good guy >> wanting to warn people about the evils of dealing with other parts vendors. >> Yeah right, this is the moment he has been hoping would come along and >> now he is making the most of it, if he was such a good guy why would he say: >> >> "i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and more >> viciously crooked till it has reached the point where it is at now. even >> though i've had nothing to do with this company for many years now, these >> are sad days for me. i feel sort of like a parent whose child has run away >> from home and now i see him on the nightly news evolved into a hardened >> criminal" >> >> Now that is strong stuff, he does not seem to care about destroying >> someone else or their livelihood (including the reputation of Rusty >> Cullens). What proof does he have of these "viciously crooked" things? I >> think the only thing he has is his believe that Rusty did the dirty on him, >> which we where all supposed to agree with and when some didn't he turned on >> us in a heart beat but no I got that wrong, Gary is a good guy and we are >> all vicious crooks evolving into hardened criminals. >> >> If Gary is a good man he should have thought a lot harder about what he >> writes in public and how he treats people, especially those he has issues >> with. >> And I do not follow your logic, we should not have kicked Gary even >> though he was happy enough to kick back and now that it is his turn to do >> some kicking, he certainly wasted no time putting on the pointy boots. >> I see what he wrote on MBworld as a major kicking, perhaps Trent deserves >> it but my view is that a few kicks where aimed at Rusty as well, who is >> feeling very bad right now but no that's right Gary is the golden child and >> Rusty is the mean one. >> >> Anyway we are all entitled to our view of the world, you reckon he is a >> good bloke who got done over, I reckon he has a mean streak that comes out >> now and then to play. >> What everyone else thinks is up to them but I do remember we gave him a >> fair chance on here to calm down and play nice but that did not happen. >> >> Basically that is what I see, you're welcome to prove me wrong and tell >> us exactly what makes Gary such a good man, I don't see it right now but I >> do not have closed mind either. >> >> Hendrik >> who would love to say that Gary is a good bloke but needs more proof of >> this and no the ability to organise shipment of parts from A to B does not >> constitute good guy status >> >> >> On 19/06/13 12:25, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: >> >>> I find it very difficult to not respond to your comments Hendrik, as they >>> are quite strong. >>> >>> Just a few basics: >>> - I think we can all agree that Trent has taken several people's money >>> and >>> not delivered anything. Its been going on long enough for him to try to >>> make this right. I can't imagine any excuse that would clear this at >>> this >>> point, as nice as that would be. And I can't imagine anyone here would >>> disagree with this. I think its safe to say it: hes a crook. >>> - I believe Gary is the best in the business. I buy a lot of parts and >>> I've tried a lot of places. Hes the only one that actually cares about >>> what he sells and delivers as promised. >>> - Gary has had his lively hood destroyed by a messy "divorce". While he >>> acted in a way that offended many, I can understand his actions. Put >>> yourself in his shoes. >>> - I'm certainly not looking to start a debate about who did what and who >>> started what, but consider this: Rusty, Gary, and Richard together >>> played >>> a significant role in creating this community and creating a successful >>> online parts business. Anyone who knows the three for a long time would >>> agree: None of them could have accomplished anything without the each >>> other. >>> >>> I find the endless flow of destructive words by many of you against Gary >>> to >>> be sickening. All of you who are guilty of this should be ashamed of >>> yourself. You continued to kick a man who was already down. You believe >>> one sided stories that don't completely add up. >>> >>> Everyone needs to stop and really think about whats going on here. >>> You're >>> making a terrible mistake. >>> >>> And Hendrick: its a shame you're so vocal about something which you hold >>> little or no stake in. I hope you sleep well tonight, thinking about the >>> effects of your comments on the livelihood of a good man. >>> >>> Completely disgusted, >>> Jaime >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Hendrik and Fay <heni...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Perhaps but the point I was making is that Jabba might be trying to look >>>> all professional and such but a pro doesn't accuse others of illegal >>>> activities unless there is some sort of proof. >>>> Basically he has accused Trent of being a crook based on a few >>>> complaints >>>> on internet forums, plus also put a pretty big slur on Rusty. >>>> My way of thinking is that I would not want to deal with such a >>>> character, >>>> even if he had the best price and service, or even offered free >>>> shipping to >>>> Oz. >>>> Perhaps when Okiebenzparts.com gets up and going that great guy and good >>>> friend Kaleb will do me great deal on a new muffler. >>>> >>>> Hendrik >>>> who only slurs after a few beers >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19/06/13 10:25, Michael Canfield wrote: >>>> >>>> Can't be sued for slander if you are speaking the facts as they are. >>>>> Seems >>>>> Jabba the Hursty might be right on the money this time. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________****_________ >>>> >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/****archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/> >>>> <http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ <http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/****mailman/listinfo/mercedes_****okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com> >>>> <http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> ______________________________**_________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives >> http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >> > > > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
