I agree. Maybe it is none of our business but it seems to me that if I was financing a business to a guy that would not return my calls I would be on his doorstep wanting to know why. Rusty said to contact him if there was a problem but we don't hear too much.
What's up? Mike On Jun 19, 2013 3:54 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski" <jaime...@gmail.com> wrote: > I can understand your desire for more proof Hendrick. But this is a pretty > ugly road to go down and certainly doesn't belong here. > > What happened in the past is the past. Its was ugly. It created a lot of > bad feelings. It was bad for business, bad for our community, and bad for > many individuals. None of us will know all the sides of the story and the > details of what happened. And many of you wouldn't want to hear it. And > boy how things have changed since then. > > My point is simple: don't believe everything that you've been told from > one side. You don't believe everything from the extreme right or left talk > radio, do you? (hint: you shouldn't) > > Looks like we have more pro-gary folks than anti-gary at this point. The > anti-gary folks are holding on to a one-sided story In the end and some > hurt feelings about being called some names Doesn't everyone just want a > reliable source of good parts? The pro-gary folks are enjoying good > service, good parts, and good knowledge. Sounds like the kind of guy who > should be part of this group, no? > > I understand the loyalty to Rusty in the past. He did a lot for many of > us, hosted parties, helped establish the sense of community we have here > (or, whats left of it now). Now Rusty is no longer here for us in that > role due to a business decision that we can all understand. It was the > right time to move on. The need for loyalty has past. In fact, shouldn't > someone be questioning how it is that Rusty came to make a deal with Trent > at all? > > I know if I were selling a business, I'd be looking for an agreement that > protected my interests. And the buyer should do the same. Check the > books, reputation, relationships, etc. > > Something doesn't add to up to me. I've seen several mentions of Trent > selling for amazingly low prices... genuine parts for more than 40% off of > list. (which isn't possible, unless you happen to own a Mercedes Benz > Sounded too good to be true. > > Jaime > > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Hendrik and Fay <heni...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Well Trent may be acting illegally and he may be a less than honest > > business man, based on what I have read from others experiences. > > However does this give give Gary the right to accuse him of an planned > > scheme to steal and also imply that Rusty has had a part in that? > > That's what a supposed honest businessman has done, accusing someone of > > improper and or illegal dealings without proof. Is this slander? > > > > The fact is that I stand to gain nothing from this whereas it is in Garys > > interest to discredit his opposition, whether he has proof or just heard > a > > few stories does not seem to matter. > > Are these the actions of a professional and supposed good man? > > Sure Gary might be good at what he does, heck he even himself says so, so > > it must be true. Perhaps that is a cultural difference but up here if you > > start going on about how good you are people will think you're a bit of a > > wally. > > I know a few people who will happily spend a few hours telling you how > > good they are and that makes for fascinating conversation. > > > > I don't know the details of the divorce but I do know it spilt over into > > this list and it turned pretty ugly. And no I can't understand his > actions, > > what did this list have to do with the split? > > If I was in his shoes and wanted to sell car parts to owners I would not > > be abusing my customers, instead be dealing with the situation privately, > > basically I think he threw a big tantrum in public, sure it might not > have > > been the best part of his life but sometimes you just got walk away and > > cool off for a while. > > > > The question here is not who started the list or what have you not, the > > point here is that Gary is not a good man, he is bitter individual who is > > hell bent on revenge. > > Of course sure I am making a terrible mistake and Gary is the good guy > > wanting to warn people about the evils of dealing with other parts > vendors. > > Yeah right, this is the moment he has been hoping would come along and > now > > he is making the most of it, if he was such a good guy why would he say: > > > > "i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and more > > viciously crooked till it has reached the point where it is at now. even > > though i've had nothing to do with this company for many years now, these > > are sad days for me. i feel sort of like a parent whose child has run > away > > from home and now i see him on the nightly news evolved into a hardened > > criminal" > > > > Now that is strong stuff, he does not seem to care about destroying > > someone else or their livelihood (including the reputation of Rusty > > Cullens). What proof does he have of these "viciously crooked" things? I > > think the only thing he has is his believe that Rusty did the dirty on > him, > > which we where all supposed to agree with and when some didn't he turned > on > > us in a heart beat but no I got that wrong, Gary is a good guy and we are > > all vicious crooks evolving into hardened criminals. > > > > If Gary is a good man he should have thought a lot harder about what he > > writes in public and how he treats people, especially those he has issues > > with. > > And I do not follow your logic, we should not have kicked Gary even > though > > he was happy enough to kick back and now that it is his turn to do some > > kicking, he certainly wasted no time putting on the pointy boots. > > I see what he wrote on MBworld as a major kicking, perhaps Trent deserves > > it but my view is that a few kicks where aimed at Rusty as well, who is > > feeling very bad right now but no that's right Gary is the golden child > and > > Rusty is the mean one. > > > > Anyway we are all entitled to our view of the world, you reckon he is a > > good bloke who got done over, I reckon he has a mean streak that comes > out > > now and then to play. > > What everyone else thinks is up to them but I do remember we gave him a > > fair chance on here to calm down and play nice but that did not happen. > > > > Basically that is what I see, you're welcome to prove me wrong and tell > us > > exactly what makes Gary such a good man, I don't see it right now but I > do > > not have closed mind either. > > > > Hendrik > > who would love to say that Gary is a good bloke but needs more proof of > > this and no the ability to organise shipment of parts from A to B does > not > > constitute good guy status > > > > > > On 19/06/13 12:25, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > > > >> I find it very difficult to not respond to your comments Hendrik, as > they > >> are quite strong. > >> > >> Just a few basics: > >> - I think we can all agree that Trent has taken several people's money > >> and > >> not delivered anything. Its been going on long enough for him to try to > >> make this right. I can't imagine any excuse that would clear this at > this > >> point, as nice as that would be. And I can't imagine anyone here would > >> disagree with this. I think its safe to say it: hes a crook. > >> - I believe Gary is the best in the business. I buy a lot of parts and > >> I've tried a lot of places. Hes the only one that actually cares about > >> what he sells and delivers as promised. > >> - Gary has had his lively hood destroyed by a messy "divorce". While he > >> acted in a way that offended many, I can understand his actions. Put > >> yourself in his shoes. > >> - I'm certainly not looking to start a debate about who did what and who > >> started what, but consider this: Rusty, Gary, and Richard together > played > >> a significant role in creating this community and creating a successful > >> online parts business. Anyone who knows the three for a long time would > >> agree: None of them could have accomplished anything without the each > >> other. > >> > >> I find the endless flow of destructive words by many of you against Gary > >> to > >> be sickening. All of you who are guilty of this should be ashamed of > >> yourself. You continued to kick a man who was already down. You > believe > >> one sided stories that don't completely add up. > >> > >> Everyone needs to stop and really think about whats going on here. > You're > >> making a terrible mistake. > >> > >> And Hendrick: its a shame you're so vocal about something which you > hold > >> little or no stake in. I hope you sleep well tonight, thinking about > the > >> effects of your comments on the livelihood of a good man. > >> > >> Completely disgusted, > >> Jaime > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Hendrik and Fay <heni...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Perhaps but the point I was making is that Jabba might be trying to > look > >>> all professional and such but a pro doesn't accuse others of illegal > >>> activities unless there is some sort of proof. > >>> Basically he has accused Trent of being a crook based on a few > complaints > >>> on internet forums, plus also put a pretty big slur on Rusty. > >>> My way of thinking is that I would not want to deal with such a > >>> character, > >>> even if he had the best price and service, or even offered free > shipping > >>> to > >>> Oz. > >>> Perhaps when Okiebenzparts.com gets up and going that great guy and > good > >>> friend Kaleb will do me great deal on a new muffler. > >>> > >>> Hendrik > >>> who only slurs after a few beers > >>> > >>> > >>> On 19/06/13 10:25, Michael Canfield wrote: > >>> > >>> Can't be sued for slander if you are speaking the facts as they are. > >>>> Seems > >>>> Jabba the Hursty might be right on the money this time. > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ______________________________****_________ > >>> > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/****archive/< > http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/> > >>> <http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ <http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/****mailman/listinfo/mercedes_****okiebenz.com< > http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com> > >>> <http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com< > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > ______________________________**_________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/< > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com< > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > > > > > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com