We may be talking apples and oranges.. or we may be talking only apples.. Apparently.. crew issue sidearms were at the discretion of the armory at the departing base. Some flight crews were issued S & W, K frame/4 inch barrel/6 round revolvers.. which was authorized issue. Others had access to the more desired Colt 1911 which were, "sometimes available"... Other crews were permitted to arm themselves with personally owned weapons.. at the discretion of the commanding officer.. most likely..
Rank, after all.. has it's privilege, and Flight Officers did what they did. In Wilton's case.. what ever happened happened.. I recall being issued the standard S&W K frame.. and feeling seriously "unarmed" for the theater of operation. On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> wrote: > that is a different gun than wilton describes he was issued. are you > saying he is confused or are you discussing a completely different subject > than i am? or am i confused at to wilton's claims? > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:13 PM, G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-271423.html > > > > K frame.. 4 inch barrel... early issue aluminum cylinders were drawn back > > due to issues.. > > 6 round cylinders... very little firepower when you are hanging from > shroud > > lines after punching out from a SAM damaged F4 and your LZ is populated > > with black pajamas and AK's and SKS's with bayonets. > > > > Jolly Green.. where are you? > > > > Grant... > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > says 1950 on this ladysize. i don't think there are any ladysize with > 6 > > > shots > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_36 > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM, G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Back in the day.. circa.. 1967.. Vietnam... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > by "back in the day", you are talking about 18 hundred and what? > > > > > > > > > > the gun wilton describes having been issued should have had 5 > > bullets. > > > > > > > > > > when do you fancy the lady sized was first made? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM, G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Quite correct... however.. back in the day... [OK.. time flys] G > I > > > > issue > > > > > > was 6 round, 4 inch barrel. > > > > > > The 5 shot ladies size revolvers had not been produced .. yet.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now.. with the new military rules of engagement.. I suppose the > > Nuke > > > > > > Command officers are sent out with a fresh tube of lipstick and > one > > > of > > > > > butt > > > > > > lube.. in case they are captured.. wrapped in a white flag. > > > > > > > > > > > > Grant.. > > > > > > Late for my Kum byyy Yaaah drum cricle.. gotta run... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Gary Hurst < > jabbahur...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > the small framed short barreled ones are 5 shots > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM, G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Against my desire to remain silent.. I feel the need to weigh > > in > > > on > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To wit: More than once, within the past decade, the US > Supreme > > > > Court > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > ruled that it is NOT a duty of a policeman/woman to protect > > > > citizens. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > only duty a policeman has is to protect himself. As stunning > > as > > > > this > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > be... it is the foundational basis for police to be armed.. > to > > > > > protect > > > > > > > > themselves, ONLY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We, the citizen, are on our own. [Sorry Andrew, bad news, I > > > know]. > > > > > > > Police > > > > > > > > do not "stop crime". They "report crime". Then consume great > > > > amounts > > > > > of > > > > > > > > time and money chasing those who do crime... sort of.. to > > gather > > > > > > evidence > > > > > > > > which may or may not meet the burden of proof at trial to > > prove a > > > > > crime > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > committed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we indeed had a "war on crime" as we are told we do.. the > > body > > > > > count > > > > > > > > would be much higher... and police officers would be much > > better > > > at > > > > > > > weapons > > > > > > > > handling. Some are.. many are not, as stated here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grant... > > > > > > > > Who was always amazed at the military who gave command pilots > > > nukes > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > armed them with 6 shot, short barrel .38 revolvers for > personal > > > > > > > protection > > > > > > > > when they ejected over hostile country... > > > > > > > > and always believed the crash axe was a better choice... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Scott Ritchey < > > > > ritche...@nc.rr.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of this serves to highlight the wide-spread > > > misunderstanding > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > real > > > > > > > > > nature of most police work, a misunderstanding largely > > fostered > > > > by > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > entertainment media. There are some well-trained and > highly > > > > > > competent > > > > > > > > > tactical police units but most police work is > administrative > > > > > > > information > > > > > > > > > processing and a systematic "showing of the flag." Not a > > > > > criticism, > > > > > > > > that's > > > > > > > > > just how it works. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One common myth worth mentioning is the one that says it's > > > > > dangerous > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > well-trained, law-abiding civilians to be armed but armed > > > police > > > > > are > > > > > > > > safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On > > > Behalf > > > > Of > > > > > > > clay > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:49 AM > > > > > > > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Local cop is in trouble because the hooker he was chasing > > after > > > > > would > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > stop. She spun around, he could not tell what was going > on, > > so > > > > he > > > > > > drew > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > service weapon. 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