I changed my 190D to Mobil1 ATF in the ps pump a couple weeks ago. In the serious cold like we've been having here lately when the car is moving slowly the power steering is noticably quieter than it was before... Sure you probably don't *need* the stuff in there but it can't hurt. I'll admit its a bit pricy, something like $5-$6 a quart but with a filter change and then changing the fluid again at each oil change one quart should last you a long time. One lasted me 2 filter changes and I think 2 or 3 fluid changes when I did oil changes. The fluid in the 190D was nasty, I think it had been adulterated with something else, maybe to quiet the pump down. I figure at the next oil change I'll probably change the filter again. -Curt Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:11:58 -0600 From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 power steering To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Actually, no, I wasn't baiting you. I am a big believer in putting Mobil 1 in the crankcase but am not yet convinced that it is necessary for some of the other stuff. (Please feel free to convince me to the contrary.) Some folks on here would use nothing but Mobil 1 windshield washer fluid if it were available. (I'd better not see that on the quotes page, Kleb). On 2/28/06, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > C'mon now, you're just baiting with that one eh? > -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 01 16:39:07 2006 Received: from web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.37]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FEULy-0002Xn-Q5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:39:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 32266 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2006 16:39:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QEHoN6TpI03lQAgWHJoq8d4wuwjmiUCLaapzCKbJlGa2fJrAC1whyGolNBXZh0DDrbdw8hEMWaCmAkz0UI73Zq1MdbbAQDfjAnFKh4gGxBcC/hoFyjaOpcuqOJpd6Rh2o/STozw1iDX6SX0rAOLGAnpY/yPmYRZG5EO8/RVMSKc= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:39:03 PST Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:39:03 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 power steering X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:39:07 -0000 How much does it cost? Not making joke, legitimately curious. If I had a newer, say '90s MB I'd probably use it. The approved fluid for the older cars was ATF... -Curt Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:41:48 -0500 From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 power steering To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Use the MB steering gearbox oil. Light yellow in color. Or is it JUST ME who uses the stuff .... On 2/28/06, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, no, I wasn't baiting you. > > I am a big believer in putting Mobil 1 in the crankcase but am not yet > convinced that it is necessary for some of the other stuff. (Please feel > free to convince me to the contrary.) > > Some folks on here would use nothing but Mobil 1 windshield washer fluid > if > it were available. (I'd better not see that on the quotes page, Kleb). > > On 2/28/06, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > C'mon now, you're just baiting with that one eh? > > > > > > > -- > 1977 240D > 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed > 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle > > http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 01 16:53:01 2006 Received: from web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.38]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FEUZR-000498-HF for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:53:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 14556 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2006 16:52:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3lTJdpGeC4GRfqjDLuXgT1SO6iU3/hsSevfjg8n0O8BrN+/08qz5AgVOMiZMK3LvKL28a0oD3CINUU7uRcNI4ZI/Xr6QOCwGwT44LFuWQhRkshtp9uAbvmOJ4ggu4NJvBpNgBV6m+4L5yqqUjToUnYxt0XiHm//t6tDE7JBy7fU= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:52:58 PST Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:52:58 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS What is the most addictive NOW colorectal etc X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:53:01 -0000 Oh man I had Vicodin a couple years ago for a broken wrist. I could stare at the wall for hours. One time I'd come home from work and my wrist was really throbbing so I took one. Half an hour later it was still killing me so I took another (the bottle said I could take 2), about 2 minutes later the first one kicked in quickly followed by the second and I was on cloud nine. My wife came home an hour or so later and found me on the floor counting my toes. She was pissed because she'd wanted to go out to dinner but I was in no condition to leave the house... Amazing stuff, I can see how people get addicted to it. -Curt Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:35:11 -0800 From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS What is the most addictive NOW colorectal etc To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed R A Bennell wrote: > The sedative > may make it easier if one is truly nervous but the nurse said it sort of > ruins the rest of one's day. > If it's anything like the twilight sedation I had for a surgical tooth extraction, "ruin" is a subjective term. It's true I wasn't at all productive for the afternoon after the procedure, but what bits of that afternoon I can remember were pretty pleasant. I was flying high, both from the aftereffects of the sedative and from Vicodin. Staring at the wall was oddly entertaining. --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! 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(68.93.62.44) by mail.mail-server.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2006 16:58:20 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:58:14 -0600 From: paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS What is the most addictive NOW colorectal etc X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:58:22 -0000 amen to that. i almost look forward to injuring myself now... p. Curt Raymond wrote: >Oh man I had Vicodin a couple years ago for a broken wrist. I could stare at >the wall for hours. One time I'd come home from work and my wrist was really >throbbing so I took one. Half an hour later it was still killing me so I took >another (the bottle said I could take 2), about 2 minutes later the first one >kicked in quickly followed by the second and I was on cloud nine. > My wife came home an hour or so later and found me on the floor counting my > toes. She was pissed because she'd wanted to go out to dinner but I was in no > condition to leave the house... Amazing stuff, I can see how people get > addicted to it. > > -Curt > >