We have KC135s in Tampa at MacDill AFB. Can’t get that close to the base to 
plane watch, but I do try to catch the traffic on my scanner and step out so I 
can see them fly over the house.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> You ain't heard nuthin 'til you are in the back of a KC135 during a wet 
> (J57) takeoff.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 6:37 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft
> 
> All the low bypass turbojets are noisy.  I flew in a British one once, don't 
> remember what it was, but it had two Rolls Conways in the back.  Very noisy 
> engines.
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 707s. 
>> I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never sold 
>>> as well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation. 
>>> 
>>> Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a 
>>>> member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private 
>>>> travel club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these 
>>>> were used for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as 
>>>> charters. There was a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have 
>>>> pictures of it. I think it was destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.
>>>> 
>>>> My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with them 
>>>> overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as 
>>>> well, they might have had more, I don’t recall.
>>>> 
>>>> They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were standing 
>>>> next to them out on the tarmac.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would 
>>>>> have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Curt
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
>>>>> Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its 
>>>>> time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If 
>>>>> the engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have 
>>>>> been more commercially viable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 
>>>>> was their swan song.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's 
>>>>>> part of the fun.  :D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed 
>>>>>> and we hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -MMM-
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