Hello Naveen and Listers From what I have seen and heard from your posts so far is that this is an unfortunate situation that has taken place. In a perfect world this would have gone differently, but we don’t live in that type of world. From what I can tell Naveen you had received two expensive meteorites that weren’t polished and from that you felt they were low quality or fakes. Let me assure you that the two X IMCA members you did business with are very well respected people in the community and know there stuff and don’t deal in fakes.
Now for meteorites not being polished doesn’t make them less in value or fake but in some respect make the value more depending if they have fusion crust or if they are a whole stone. As you collect more you will learn that people collect with different intensions. Me, if I could, I would only collect meteorites that are in fragment form that hadn’t been cut into a slice or polished. I would rather the meteorite be true to its natural state when it was found, but I can’t always collect that way cause of budget issues and sometimes you can’t find meteorite in the form you want them. Other people collect whole slices and they want them to be polished on both sides to a mirror finish. Each collector has his or her own way of collecting from NWAs, historic, hammer stones, or only meteorite falls, or to found meteorites. There is no right or wrong way to collect a meteorite, but just because a meteorite isn’t polished doesn’t mean it’s a lower quality or fake, it just means that some people rather have the meteorite be true to its original state when found. But all hope isn’t lost. People every day have their meteorites cut in half and polished or cleaned to bring out other qualities of the meteorite. Again it is unfortunate what has taken place, but I again would like to stress the two people in question sell high quality meteorites and for the most part the meteorite community is a safe place to collect, trade, sell, learn and talk about meteorites. I can say this, take your time with future sales and learn more about what you’re going to buy. Make sure that once you do the sale that you can live with the meteorite without second thoughts if you should have bought the meteorite or not because some people have a no return policy. That’s doesn’t mean that it’s a fake or low quality it’s the nature of the business with selling a collecting meteorites. But if it’s a fake that’s a different story but be careful when suggesting that because that can to cause problems with both parties and in some cause can be deemed as defamation of character. All in all I can say that collecting meteorites is wonderful way to spend your hard earned money because I can say I do it day in and day out. As for the situation you’re in, I hope something can be worked out. As for the rest of us we are great people. We all have one thing in common is that we all enjoy meteorites and welcome to the addiction :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] Martin & Stefan Kicked out of IMCA for their illegal behaviorNaveen Jain naveen at intelius.com Tue Aug 2 11:09:22 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] AD: My Annual 50% Off Sale On EVERYTHING! -August 1st to 7th ! Enjoy! Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Michael, Please help me get this resolved if you can. I am open to anything that’s just and fair. I am not looking forward to filing lawsuit against them but simply look to them to fulfill their obligations. I think many in FBI will think of what they did as cross border Mail and Wire fraud but I am not willing to go down that route quite yet. Thanks for your offer to resolve the dispute. IMCA board members tried very hard to get them to see the light but sight of large money completely blinded them. Warm regards, Naveen Naveen Jain Founder - Moon Express, Intelius, InfoSpace Board of Trustee – X Prize Foundation, Singularity University http://www.linkedin.com/in/naveenjainintelius From: meteoriteguy.com [mailto:mike at meteoriteguy.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:48 AM To: Naveen Jain Cc: Matthias Bärmann; MexicoDoug; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martin & Stefan Kicked out of IMCA for their illegal behavior I like martin and stefan. I am Sure this can still be peacfully resolved for all parties. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:40 AM, "Naveen Jain" <naveen at intelius.com> wrote: Absolutely Yes. Here is the email thread with the unconditional refund policy. I specifically asked Martin in an email thread below after having discussed with him on the phone previously about the refund policy. ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
