On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 12:00:06AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: > On Friday 28 September 2007, Porkchop wrote: > > On 28/09/07 22:42 -0400, Mike Kershaw wrote: > > > Another thing which occurred to me as I hit send, is that you may simply > > > be dealing with people who, like me, by default reply to someone > > > directly and the list at the same time with the 'group reply' option. > > > > I think thats it. Also, see the headers of each of these messages. The one > > I'm replying to now had this header: Reply-To: [email protected], Mike > > Kershaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It seems that the list will append itself to the "Reply-To:" header, rather > > than replace it (which I know Sympa did). Most mail clients, regardless of > > "group reply" or not, will by default reply to all the "Reply-To:" > > addresses. > > Yep, sure enough. That explains the behavior that I was seeing; twice I > was sent a private mail that was also sent to the list -- both were messages > that were in reply to a msg I had sent to the list. Not every mailing list > message has the list and an individual email address in the Reply-To: header, > but most of them do. > The routing of the private messages vs the list messages appears to be > different, too [being sent from the sender's ISP rather than Mhvlug's], so > this isn't an issue of Mailman duplicating the messages -- it's just the > Reply-To: header that's generating that by default from our mail clients. > That also explains why the private messages aren't getting the normally added > Mhvlug text at the bottom of the message.
There is an option in mailman for the list to attempt to remove
duplicates (i.e. if mailman sees you are in the To or CC list, it won't
send you a copy). This is not on by default as it breaks people that
filter on List-ID and want to see a consistent email thread in their
MHVLUG mail folder. I always error on the side of not having the server
remove content as it is possible to filter things out on the client
side, but not possible to create information which isn't there.
Also note, that when I resubscribed the 145 people in the list, it
turned email on for everyone (including accounts that were subscribed
but with the no mail option). If you put 2 email addresses on the list
previously so that you could send from 2 different accounts, but
disabled mail to 1, you'd be getting 2 messages. I know Joe ran into
this issue, I suspect some others did as well.
I would suggest that anyone that is seeing behavior they don't like with
the list go and check out the subscription options available to you.
They are pretty extensive, and will let you customize your experience
far more than sympa did.
-Sean
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