All English words are ambiguous, largely because as the phenomenology
which buttresses thier meaning mutates, then metaphor rears its   ugly
head and ambiguates the original meaning. ( more's the pity)..The
programmers search for static meaning to fix(as in photography) his code
is doomed...
That is why APL which consists entirely of symbols is so appealing to
certain individuals....LenG


On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 13:35 -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 July 2010 08:46:12 Sean Dague wrote:
> ...
> > Now two questions that have been bubbling around in my head, and I'd
> > like comments on them.
> > 
> > 1) Do we want another mailing list like mhvlug-chatter or something
> > which will specifically allow all manner of off topic posting (like Dan
> > suggested)?  If people find that appealing, it's pretty easy to set it up.
> 
> I'll just say this: NYLUG tried this because there were so many political 
> rants on [nylug-talk] that another mailing list was created, [nylug-social].  
> Sounds great, but nobody uses it.  Anytime a decision that a topic needs to 
> go 
> over to the other mailing list, the conversation simply ends.
> 
> Your mileage may vary, but that's what I've seen happen in practice.
> 
> > 2) A couple of years ago Joe brought up the idea of changing our name to
> > be more inclusive.  Make it an Open Source Users Group, or Open Source
> > Society.  At the time I wasn't really ready to hear it.  But I think
> > that as our programs and member ship grow and shift it might be time.
> > Linux would still be a part of that, but this is really a bigger tent now.
> 
> I don't like the term "open source" because of the ambiguity it creates.  For 
> instance, the proprietary Nvidia driver has the source available -- so that's 
> "open source" even though it's not "free software".  The term "free" is 
> likewise ambiguous; there's "free as in beer" and "free as in freedom".  And 
> "freedom" is ambiguous too -- within this context you could argue for the BSD 
> because of the freedom it allows to release binary-only modifications, or 
> argue for the freedom of users to have access to distributed modifications 
> such as the GPL requires.
> 
> If we had a talk at MHVLUG about OpenSolaris, ReactOS, BSD, etc -- I wouldn't 
> consider that off-topic.  But changing the name to reflect this isn't as easy 
> as it sounds.
> 
>   -- Chris
> 
> --
> 
> Chris Knadle
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