A Neon ECU isn't going to work with a Protégé engine because the crank position 
sensor system is totally different.  Changing to non-Torsen 4.11 gears (cheap 
at a boneyard) would be the most cost effective improvement if the complete 
diff pkg is swappable in the rear end housing or if you know how to set up diff 
gears yourself.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Larry Alster 
  To: 'Timothy Sloan' ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 6:20 PM
  Subject: RE: questions for a non-miata mazda engine...


  Guy told you he got 26, what is the EPA for the car.  I'm not saying EPA is 
realistic but if the EPA is 21 you're not likely to be getting much more.  If 
the EPA is 28 well then you might be able to get more.

   

  Someone already pointed out the plugs and wires.  I'd consider running a 
bottle of some good injector cleaner through the car.  Do it with a tank of 
high test and a long highway drive of a few hours to get the injectors working 
hard for a long time.

   

  The synthetic oils and fluids will add up too as the tires.

   

  But remember if you get into paying big money to get more MPG you will have 
to wait quite a long time to get a return on the money you spent.

   

   

   

  Larry
   
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sloan
  Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:47 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: questions for a non-miata mazda engine...

   

  I know this is a mazda forum, and more importantly, a miata forum, but I am 
not sure where else to go, and you all seem to be the most knowledgeable people 
I can find about mazda engines and improving the gas mileage.  I don't drive a 
Mazda, but a 2WD 02  Kia Sportage. Through my research, I've found that the Kia 
engine may really be a Mazda engine, (1.6 liter FE3 ?).
  (thanks to solomiata- http://members.aol.com/solomiata/FE3.html). Hence, why 
I'm here. 

  I live in Dallas, and freeways are non-negotiable unless going next door. At 
freeway speeds (65-80+), my Sportage is running at 4K rpms and drinking gas 
like there's no tomorrow.  When I bought it a year ago, the guy told me he was 
getting 26 mpg plus. I have yet to see over 21, and most of the time, it runs 
16 to 17 mpg. Granted, I run 87 octane, but surely there's a way I can get 
close to 30 mpg.  Heck, my brother in law gets 16mpg with a V8 chevy truck.

  Mazda gurus, help, please. what can be done to improve the mileage? This car 
has 96K miles and is paid for, which is part of the reason I am willing to mod 
this car instead of just selling it. I've read the emails on using a Dodge Neon 
ECU+ Protege engine to theoretically get better gas mileage and am considering 
that, but does anyone have any other suggestions as to engine mods or any 
others that I can do here with the minimum amount of frame reconstruction / 
engine mount re-welding, etc.?

  There aren't many Kia forums I've found with a lot of promise in this. Mostly 
just folks like me with crappy mileage asking the same questions.  Thanks for 
any help you guys can suggest. No suggestion is too far out at present.

  Thanks,

  Tim

  2002 Kia Sportage





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