That would be an improvement over the '89-'93 1.6 ECU providing you're 
proficient in tuning it, and might be an improvement over a '94-'97 1.8 ECU.  
But OEM ECUs got better after that.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dillon 
  To: Ray Ayala 
  Cc: Larry Alster ; Timothy Sloan ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:45 PM
  Subject: Re: questions for a non-miata mazda engine...


  How about a full standalone ECU?  A MegaSquirt perhaps?  If there's any 
improvement to be found in tuning, that would be the tool to use.


  On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Ray Ayala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    A Neon ECU isn't going to work with a Protégé engine because the crank 
position sensor system is totally different.  Changing to non-Torsen 4.11 gears 
(cheap at a boneyard) would be the most cost effective improvement if the 
complete diff pkg is swappable in the rear end housing or if you know how to 
set up diff gears yourself.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Larry Alster 
      To: 'Timothy Sloan' ; [email protected] 
      Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 6:20 PM
      Subject: RE: questions for a non-miata mazda engine...


      Guy told you he got 26, what is the EPA for the car.  I'm not saying EPA 
is realistic but if the EPA is 21 you're not likely to be getting much more.  
If the EPA is 28 well then you might be able to get more.



      Someone already pointed out the plugs and wires.  I'd consider running a 
bottle of some good injector cleaner through the car.  Do it with a tank of 
high test and a long highway drive of a few hours to get the injectors working 
hard for a long time.



      The synthetic oils and fluids will add up too as the tires.



      But remember if you get into paying big money to get more MPG you will 
have to wait quite a long time to get a return on the money you spent.







      Larry
       
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      From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy 
Sloan
      Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:47 PM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: questions for a non-miata mazda engine...



      I know this is a mazda forum, and more importantly, a miata forum, but I 
am not sure where else to go, and you all seem to be the most knowledgeable 
people I can find about mazda engines and improving the gas mileage.  I don't 
drive a Mazda, but a 2WD 02  Kia Sportage. Through my research, I've found that 
the Kia engine may really be a Mazda engine, (1.6 liter FE3 ?).
      (thanks to solomiata- http://members.aol.com/solomiata/FE3.html). Hence, 
why I'm here. 

      I live in Dallas, and freeways are non-negotiable unless going next door. 
At freeway speeds (65-80+), my Sportage is running at 4K rpms and drinking gas 
like there's no tomorrow.  When I bought it a year ago, the guy told me he was 
getting 26 mpg plus. I have yet to see over 21, and most of the time, it runs 
16 to 17 mpg. Granted, I run 87 octane, but surely there's a way I can get 
close to 30 mpg.  Heck, my brother in law gets 16mpg with a V8 chevy truck.

      Mazda gurus, help, please. what can be done to improve the mileage? This 
car has 96K miles and is paid for, which is part of the reason I am willing to 
mod this car instead of just selling it. I've read the emails on using a Dodge 
Neon ECU+ Protege engine to theoretically get better gas mileage and am 
considering that, but does anyone have any other suggestions as to engine mods 
or any others that I can do here with the minimum amount of frame 
reconstruction / engine mount re-welding, etc.?

      There aren't many Kia forums I've found with a lot of promise in this. 
Mostly just folks like me with crappy mileage asking the same questions.  
Thanks for any help you guys can suggest. No suggestion is too far out at 
present.

      Thanks,

      Tim

      2002 Kia Sportage





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