How about a full standalone ECU?  A MegaSquirt perhaps?  If there's any
improvement to be found in tuning, that would be the tool to use.

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Ray Ayala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  A Neon ECU isn't going to work with a Protégé engine because the crank
> position sensor system is totally different.  Changing to non-Torsen 4.11
> gears (cheap at a boneyard) would be the most cost effective improvement if
> the complete diff pkg is swappable in the rear end housing or if you know
> how to set up diff gears yourself.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Larry Alster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* 'Timothy Sloan' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ;
> [email protected]
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 17, 2008 6:20 PM
> *Subject:* RE: questions for a non-miata mazda engine...
>
>  Guy told you he got 26, what is the EPA for the car.  I'm not saying EPA
> is realistic but if the EPA is 21 you're not likely to be getting much
> more.  If the EPA is 28 well then you might be able to get more.
>
>
>
> Someone already pointed out the plugs and wires.  I'd consider running a
> bottle of some good injector cleaner through the car.  Do it with a tank of
> high test and a long highway drive of a few hours to get the injectors
> working hard for a long time.
>
>
>
> The synthetic oils and fluids will add up too as the tires.
>
>
>
> But remember if you get into paying big money to get more MPG you will have
> to wait quite a long time to get a return on the money you spent.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight      1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet        1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo
> Honey B             1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L  JR Supercharger
> Whooosh           2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5
>
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>
>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Timothy Sloan
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:47 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* questions for a non-miata mazda engine...
>
>
>
> I know this is a mazda forum, and more importantly, a miata forum, but I am
> not sure where else to go, and you all seem to be the most knowledgeable
> people I can find about mazda engines and improving the gas mileage.  I
> don't drive a Mazda, but a 2WD 02  Kia Sportage. Through my research, I've
> found that the Kia engine may really be a Mazda engine, (1.6 liter FE3 ?).
> (thanks to solomiata- http://members.aol.com/solomiata/FE3.html). Hence,
> why I'm here.
>
> I live in Dallas, and freeways are non-negotiable unless going next door.
> At freeway speeds (65-80+), my Sportage is running at 4K rpms and drinking
> gas like there's no tomorrow.  When I bought it a year ago, the guy told me
> he was getting 26 mpg plus. I have yet to see over 21, and most of the time,
> it runs 16 to 17 mpg. Granted, I run 87 octane, but surely there's a way I
> can get close to 30 mpg.  Heck, my brother in law gets 16mpg with a V8 chevy
> truck.
>
> Mazda gurus, help, please. what can be done to improve the mileage? This
> car has 96K miles and is paid for, which is part of the reason I am willing
> to mod this car instead of just selling it. I've read the emails on using a
> Dodge Neon ECU+ Protege engine to theoretically get better gas mileage and
> am considering that, but does anyone have any other suggestions as to engine
> mods or any others that I can do here with the minimum amount of frame
> reconstruction / engine mount re-welding, etc.?
>
> There aren't many Kia forums I've found with a lot of promise in this.
> Mostly just folks like me with crappy mileage asking the same questions.
> Thanks for any help you guys can suggest. No suggestion is too far out at
> present.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>
> 2002 Kia Sportage
>
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