Agreed, Ray. Our Prius is the next generation, and even though it is paid  
for I don't really plan on risking an E85 experiment anytime soon. But, if  
someone else did the dirty work, testing, etc., I'd love to run E85 in the  
Prius. 
 
The 2gen Prius is no slouch, but it is the closest thing to a limp biscuit  
on wheels. It could certainly use the extra power, and from a geo-political  
point of view I'd gladly spend more per mile to send less of my money to the  
Arab countries. We may be the evil Satan, but we don't have to be the evil  
stupid Satan.
 
Jim in Tucson
Planning an E85 EVO
Wishing for an E85 Prius
Missing his Miata :-(
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/15/2008 8:30:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

For those of you that own a similar Prius and want to try it  yourself, keep 
in mind that you will have to increase the %ethanol as slowly  as was done in 
the test (same for switching back) because the ECU  adapts only very slowly.  
Perhaps future versions will have their ECUs  reprogrammed to switch quickly 
like flex-fuel ECUs.

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[email protected])  
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 8:02  AM
Subject: E85 and factory ECU -  NMC


I've been reading everything I can get my hands on concerning E85, and  
particularly the conversion of non-flex fuel engines to E85. I stumbled  across 
this academic study of a Prius where Ethanol was gradually introduced  into the 
fuel system in ever increasing percentages. This was done on a dyno  with 
considerable data logging. It was determined that, at least in the case  of the 
Prius, E85 could be run with NO changes to anything - no larger  injectors, no 
re-mapping of the ECU, no increased fuel pressure, nadda, zip,  nothing.
 
And, the most interesting part was that with full 85% Ethanol  the car made 
20% more HP and 33% more torque just by simply filling up at  the yellow pump.
 
_www.greenenergynetwork.com/media/studies/prius-e85.PDF_ 
(http://www.greenenergynetwork.com/media/studies/prius-e85.PDF) 
 
Now, my questions is this, is there anyone on this list  with a dyno and a 
wideband who would be interested in attempting some  E85 testing with a stock 
Miata?
Jim in Tucson
 
 



 
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