Agreed, Randy. E85 is supposed to be equivalent to 105 octane; in fact this  
is stated right on the local E85 pump. 
 
Several EVO IX's (made in 2006 only) are getting 100whp just with E85. I  
don't expect that much with my 
EVI VIII (2003-2005), but 80whp is not unheard of. However, most of the  
performance car conversions to E85 involve numerous upgrades: fuel pumps, fuel  
pressure regulators, larger injectors, re-mapping the ECU, or a piggyback, or  
full replacement ECU, etc., etc.
 
I was totally fascinated by the Prius test that involved NO changes to  
anything. I was most surprised that of any cars, why would a Prius be designed  
to 
benefit from the introductions of higher octane fuel? I could understand a  
performance car being tuned by knock sensor, so to speak, I was surprised that  
an economy car would be. It made me wonder what would happen with <fill in  
the blank with ANY car> when E85 would be introduced. 
 
Another good E85 candidate would be the SRT-4 Neon, which supposedly has a  
very sophisticated self- tuning ECU system.
 
Jim
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/15/2008 8:42:46 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, SOLO  
MIATA writes:

Jim, 
 
One of the benefits of alcohol as a fuel is that it has a higher octane  
rating than standard pump gas.  
 
If the ECU is programmed to increase ignition timing when no detonation  
events occur then it will increase HP over using strait 87 octane gas.   The 
99+ 
Miata ECU does this to a limited extent. 
 
It is not uncommon for people to convert to E85 simply for the HP  benefits, 
regardless of the overall increased consumption.  I also own a  04 GTO, many 
people have converted to E85 use simply to get the extra 40-50 hp  that the ECU 
provides by going into full advance ignition timing. 
 
Randy



 
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