Otherwise known as "Burgessing".

If I had a dollar for every time I've been told that, I could probably pay for a crew to pay the crew I would pay to keep my cars running...

-Bryan

--- On Tue, 2/3/09, Larry Alster <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Larry Alster <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: 95 crank diametor
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 2:24 PM

Old list members refer to that as Mike Syndrome, Wally!!  J

 

 

 

Larry
 
White Knight      1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
Silver Bullet        1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo
Honey B             1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L  JR Supercharger
Whooosh           2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5
 
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Larry Alster; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: 95 crank diametor

 

Fair 'nuf. :)

(I sometimes tend to overthink repairs like that, and every now and again need someone to remind me to 'just bloody fix it'.. but true, some people aren't in a position to DIY)

Wallyman


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Yes, that's what I would do...but I'm just giving options here. Some people are not comfortable or don't have the time to do such things; different stages of life.

Ross

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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: 'jason stone' ; Larry Alster ; [email protected] ; [email protected]
Subject: Re: 95 crank diametor

But if you are doing a used engine, you can easily fall into the "while it's out" repair/maintenance/upgrade mess too.

FWIW, I'd just do the cheap fix and see how long it goes.. worst it can do is break again, *then* you deal with the swap/repair/whatever. Buy yourself some time for $7 worth of Loc-tite and DIY in the driveway with a Miata buddy from the list. If you are near me, I'd gladly lend a wrench and a hand.. Beer and pizza can get you some cheap and highly skilled labor around here if they are local. :)


Wallyman



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It would seem to.


A loctite fix would be $300-$500 for an indy shop to do. Could be over $1,000 if you start replacing everything mentioned by someone else in the "while you're in there" vein.



What's the labor to pull/replace an engine? 6 to 8 hours?
More so labor wise to then do a crank replacement.


However, if the loctite fix is always going to bother you, that you "know it's there", which I can understand the sentiment, then I think just getting a decent used engine replaced would be the best bet. I've heard of them going for $300.



From:
Larry Alster
Sent:
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:17 AM
To:
'jason stone' ; [email protected]
Subject:
RE: 95 crank diametor

IMHO

The locate fix wins on cost.

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 SM2 FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L JR Supercharger
Whooosh 2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5

LowCountry Miata
http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jason stone
Sent:
Monday, February 02, 2009 11:13 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject:
Re: 95 crank diametor

Without much time or space, I am actually considering an entire Japanese replacement engine for my miata that has 2/4 bolts currently sheared off of my long nose crank pulley (late model 1991).

The loctite may not work and while the tube costs close to nothing, the labor is far from that. Assuming the cost of a crank, and labor to replace a crank, I cannot imagine it being able to compete price wise with either the loctite solution or the engine swap.

If one was doing their own work, it makes logical sense to do the loctite. If a mechanic was being paid, I think one enters a gray area.

What would the price be for a mechanic to perform the loctite fix?
What would the price be for a mechanic to tear down an engine to swap a crank?
What would the price be for an entire engine swap (used JDM= ~$600) + labor?

Out of these choices, I am curious what would be the most cost efficient and also wonder which would be the most durable fix for someone that drives their vehicle aggressively.

On 2/2/09, Tim South <[email protected]> wrote:

No kidding cheaper than a crank replacement. My supply house must've only had the larger tube, I suppose.
----- Original Message -----

From: Larry Alster

To: 'Tim South'

Cc: [email protected]

Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:50 PM

Subject: RE: 95 crank diametor

How much is needed??? First web search give Amazon as a hit with a 6ML tube for under 9 bucks

Lots of other hits available from 9 bucks to 156 bucks.

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 SM2 FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L JR Supercharger
Whooosh 2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5

LowCountry Miata http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim South
Sent:
Monday, February 02, 2009 5:44 PM
Cc:
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Subject:
Re: 95 crank diametor

Last I knew the Loctite 660 was about $30 per tube and only available at industrial supply houses, which is where I found it. Has that changed?
----- Original Message -----

From: Robert McElwee

To: [email protected]

Cc: [email protected]

Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: 95 crank diametor

Do the tried and tested loctite fix and forget about it. I don't see a need for a crank sleeve unless you want to spend $150 for a sleeve instead of $5 for a bottle of loctite.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:11 AM, john daniels <[email protected]> wrote:

A guy suggested that I put in a crank sleeve around the crank.


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