You cannot be a conservative and sociL liberal. Those are compatible.
John McCain attempt that last, I think he called it compassionate
conservatism. It's bs. The very nature of conservatism goes agaisnt
social policy n
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On Sep 25, 2009, at 2:18 PM, "Dan Scolnick" <[email protected]>
wrote:
i am a fiscal conservative, a social liberal and an original
constructionist.
however those claiming and wearing the mantel of conservatives,
liberals and original constructionists are usually not.
the constitution was drafted as a living document. Because it WAS
silent on things does not mean it must always be.
because it counted a black man as less than a whole man doesn't mean
it must always be so.
dan
From: Casey Wheeler [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: Dan Scolnick
Cc: Mark Phillips; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NMC - Healthcare Crisis Debate
Btw, I don't really understand the neo-con definition... I am a
conservative and a originalist...
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On Sep 25, 2009, at 2:00 PM, "Dan Scolnick" <[email protected]>
wrote:
very good neo-con tactic, try to change the focus of the argument,
well here goes.
i don't hate highly paid people, i am one.
along with that high pay goes fiduciary responsibility. They
clearly did NOT practice fiduciary responsibility and therefore
should NOT be highly paid and should NOT have a job.
I resent highly paid people that do their job so poorly that their
banks go out of business, and then my tax dollars have to bail them
out, and they continue to be highly paid.
the are incompetant and should be out of jobs, and out of money.
the got paid for a service they did not deliver, and now we
taxpayers have to make good on it.
if the fair market is good for one side, let it be good for the
other.
dan
From: Casey Wheeler [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:13 PM
To: Dan Scolnick
Cc: Mark Phillips; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NMC - Healthcare Crisis Debate
Why do you HATE HIGHLY PAID PEOPLE?
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On Sep 25, 2009, at 12:58 PM, "Dan Scolnick" <[email protected]>
wrote:
oh pullleeze!
had the HIGH PAID bankers stuck to their fiduciary
responsibilities AND DONE THEIR JOBS,
the banks would not have failed, regardless of the impetus the
government put on them.
the government gave them incentive, the incentive was GREED. it
was GREED for the borrowers, it was GREED for the lenders.
let's see what the outcome is.
The HIGHLY paid bankers, who were the only ones with fiduciary
responsibility, got to keep all the money they made.
The borrowers got to live in a nice house for a little while, and
now they're out.
We the taxpayers put in all the money,
and NOW
the HIGHLY paid bankers are buying the houses at foreclosure to
make their next killing on the same stuff.
AND they get continued be paid far in excess of their worth to the
economy.
in fact the worst offenders are the highest paid.
Free markets seem to only count when the oligarchy is making their
money.
dan
From: [email protected] [mailto:miatapower-
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Casey Wheeler
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:53 PM
To: Mark Phillips
Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NMC - Healthcare Crisis Debate
No I feel that people should pay attention to things. The banks
for instance.... Had the government not forced them to lend to so
risky people, some banks would not have failed. Some would have,
sure. But that's a free market. Things need to fail. It creates
new oppurtunities.
Artificial limits and regulation put on most markets slow growth
and hurt competition. Adam smith was a smart man.
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On Sep 25, 2009, at 12:42 PM, "Mark Phillips" <[email protected]
> wrote:
“Free market always creates the best policy”, I disagree. The
current economic climate is a testament to that. Industries ne
ed regulation or they will continue out of control until someo
ne gets hurt. After that, they will continue until they get hu
rt or are stopped. The really bad ones continue regardless. Th
ink indestructible teenager with a learner’s permit, a self-ce
ntered attitude and a high-powered Miata (I finally worked som
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