And victims of armed robbery are at fault too, I'm sure. They should
have taken self defense courses and carried a handgun. :-)
OK, I agree that Welfare is screwed up. Those that are able, should be
required to work for their welfare check. Of course there'll be people
who try to come up with medical reasons why they can't work, so there
may need to be some evaluation and even so, some will slip through,
but at least a good portion will be contributing to society... and
maybe even learning a valuable skill.
Last post in the hopes that lack of responses will cause this thread
to die off. People have their entrenched beliefs... from one extreme
to the other. Seldom will this sort of discussion change them.
Russ
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There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing and
mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway
On Sep 25, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Casey Wheeler wrote:
Yes poor people chose to be poor. Been there done growing up.
Fat people choose to be fat. 90%+ of obese people are lazy period.
Some do have thyroid, depression, diabetic, etc. But most our lazy.
I have an aunt that is obese and work with obese people daily. Lazy.
And some abused people stay in bad relationships and continue to put
themselves in an abusive situation. My mother was one of those for a
couple years. She then woke up and took my little brother and I and
left. My mother did it, anyone else being abused can as well.
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On Sep 25, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Russ <[email protected]> wrote:
OMG! People who are poor choose to be poor or are lazy?! LOL
So people who are obese choose to be obese?
I agree that in some cases these can be true, but certainly not
universally!
Next thing we'll hear is that abused women & children choose to be.
Sigh.
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What's the government have to fear if people develop the ability to
overthrow it? If the US Regime is not doing anything wrong, they
don't have anything to worry about, right?
On Sep 25, 2009, at 5:59 AM, Casey Wheeler wrote:
Jim is absolutly correct and probably makes the point better than
I did. Most people have health conditions due to their own
choices. Furthermore, people without ins. Don't have ins. by their
own doing. The people that "need" social healthcare are the people
who are most apathetic. We all have the freedom and choice to take
this path or another. If people make better choices, life is
better/easier. Our society has become so.... So lazy, pathetic,
apathtic... Something, I can't find the right description... Take
some personal responsibility and handle your business.
Casey
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On Sep 25, 2009, at 8:18 AM, [email protected] wrote:
I decided I must weigh in on this one after all. I do work at the
largest hospital in my immediate area, which just happens to be
the only for profit hospital in southern Arizona. My observations
are first hand, not something I've seen on TV or read about.
I don't honestly believe we have a 'healthcare' crisis. I believe
that we do have a 'wellness' crisis. More accurately, a lack of
wellness crisis. The vast majority of the patients I see in the
healthcare system are sick due to their own lifestyle choices.
We have an entire generation of citizens who think that they are
owed everything: police protection, fire protection, healthcare,
etc. Personal responsibility is way undervalued by our current
culture.
Numerous hospitalizations could be avoided entirely by simply
getting an annual physical exam where the physician has the
opportunity to catch the signals of a possible or impending issue
and take preemptive measures.
'You are what you eat' is a manta of any good cardiac rehab
program. However, if adopted as a normal part of one's life, it
could have been what keep you out of cardiac care in the first
place.
I don't think I need to point out the shift to a sedentary
lifestyle that the vast majority of people have adopted.
Practicing wellness is hard work. Most people would much prefer
to ignore good lifestyle choices and then push the responsibility
for their well being off onto someone else.
Jim in Tucson
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