On Dec 31, 11:48 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 30 Dec, 17:45, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Evidence for a plan: none.
> > Evidence against a plan:
> > 1) The appendix
> > 2) other vestigial organs.
>
> Why do you think that Evolution couldn't be a part of a plan?
Easy, evolution is an effect, not a cause.
>
> > 3) Religion
>
> Or diversity of thought
And that too.
>
> > 4) Cancer.
>
> or change over time
I think we dealt with evolution.
>
> > 5) The existence of Jade Goody
>
> or diversity within a species
Yep, drongos.
>
> > 6) ad infinitem....
>
> or any number of thoughtless (that is, not well thought-out) cop-outs.
I could go on, but i'm still waiting for some evidence of a plan to
consider.
>
> > Okham's razor is good enough for most things, this included.
>
> > If you want to argue for a plan then go ahead, but I reject the plan
> > idea for the same set of reasons that I reject astrology.
>
> Funny, I'd have thought the existence of Cancer (the constellation)
> would be evidence FOR astrology.
It was not that sort that I had in mind. The constellation does not
exist. It is nothing more than a pattern of stars that is observable
from earth. If you were to travel away from earth it disappears, just
like other human delusions and illusions.
> But seriously, none of those reasons
> point towards 'no plan' any more than they, of necessity, pont to a
> plan.
Of course they do. In the same way that crime point to inadequate
policing, or death point to a lack of breathing.
In the total absence of evidence for a thing, it is futile and
childlike to believe that such things as fairies exist. But then all
YOU have to do is believe in them and Tinkerbell is saved!
There is still no conclusive evidence for either argument. And
> I've seen depiction of Willian of Ockham with a beard, so not even HE
> used his razor all the time. ;-)
My radiotherapy treatment on my neck means that I only have to use my
razor 50% as much as I used to - at least it has done some good!
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