Yes Ian, the Constitution, the Bible and other works are merely representative of the time in which they were drafted. I see them now as antiquated relics of the past. However, laws aside, morals abandoned, let's address the issue for what it really is. Our innate sense of fear and self preservation takes precedence over any and all law except the law of nature itself. In ancient pre-gun history people defended themselves with weaponry that was relevant to the time. No one did not own a sword because it was against the law to own. Swords killed as it was their purpose to do so. People did not hunt with swords, they used arrow and spear, but that is not the point. When there was an intrusion whether upon a home or a community from a hostile neighboring clan, people gathered their weaponry to defend themselves. They were not helpless due to a law that forbade them the right to own arms. The intruders were no less and no more armed and the confrontation was on equal ground. Weapons in our time have changed, even owning a gun may not match up to the weapon of the intruder should it be a machine gun, but what remains the same is the right to bear arms for self preservation. Now, if my government could "guarantee", which it can't, that no one will have possession of guns then I would feel more comfortable knowing that if an intruder broke into my home he would not have a firearm. Unfortunately, criminals have guns and therefore people must have the right to own a weapon comparable to that of the intruder. No one can take away our right of self preservation via any means available. You can't fight a war with rocks when the enemy has cannons. Defending ourselves, as citizens, against criminals "IS" a war. I know I can't depend on the police department as they might just as soon shoot me instead of the criminal. I'd rather just simply disable the intruder and then call the police. Unfortunately, humans are a species which finds self predation a viable means of survival, it's cannibalism. Don't have any money? Just kill your neighbor and take his. Don't have any food? Just kill the people at the market and take what you need. Need a car? Just steal one from someone else. It's the sad state of the human condition, it is sickness, it is sad, but as long as it is the way it is, I won't have any qualms about taking out some of the garbage. Obviously the government thinks it is better to put murderers and rapists in prison for awhile and then let them out so they can kill and rape again. Society would be better off without these defective people but probably the influence of chrisitians in government changed the way we mete out justice, not sure, just glad I'm not one.
On Feb 5, 8:53 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > 2009/2/5 Lee <[email protected]> > > > > > My comment about America, is really my admision that I have no idea > > what should be done for the best there. Many Americans will not give > > up their right to bear arms, and as it is enshrined in their law, then > > I really don't see why they should, however the title of this thread > > is Guns in Britain, and as a residant I say that we neither require > > them nor want them. > > Lee, there does seem to be almost doctrinal reverence given to U.S. > Constitution and Bill of Rights. Being English I don't get it at all, > especially considering how continuously the articles are exploited beyond > their original purpose and all the ill that has come of them. Maybe the > Constitution would have been less like horseshit had Jefferson and Adams -- > who have always struck me as the only sharp tools in a box of very dull ones > -- not been in France smoking opium during the Philadelphia Convention? > > I'm mostly joking, of course, but I do hold to the point that writing > something down 218 years ago (which may have seemed like a really idea at > the time) is probably due a blank piece of a paper by now. Even Christians > treat the Bible like a wiki, maybe the Colonials should follow this example > with their moldy Constitution? > > Ian --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
