Interesting, but not surprising.
On Feb 5, 11:01 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> The study of the evolutionary roots of crime began with the work of
> Martin Daly and Margo Wilson, a married couple who work at McMaster
> University in Canada. They looked at what is usually regarded as the
> most serious crime of all, murder. That murderers are usually young
> men is well known, but Dr Daly and Dr Wilson dug a bit deeper. They
> discovered that although the murder rate varies from place to place,
> the pattern does not. Plot the rate against the age of the perpetrator
> and the peak is the same. Moreover, the pattern of the victims is
> similar. They, too, are mostly young men. In the original study, 86%
> of the victims of male killers aged between 15 and 19 were also male.
> This is the clue as to what is going on. Most violence (and thus most
> murder, which is simply violence’s most extreme expression) is a
> consequence of competition between young, unemployed, unmarried men.
> In the view of Darwinists, these men are either competing for women
> directly (“You looking at my girl, Jimmy?”) or competing for status
> (“You dissing me, man?”). I can't reproduce the graph here, but it is
> "killing proof" - the data is undeniable.
>
> On 6 Feb, 00:03, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > “…Unfortunately, criminals have guns and therefore people must have
> > the right to own a weapon comparable to that of the intruder….” – SD
>
> > I agree. And, again, since often said ‘intruder/criminal’ is the
> > government
> > itself….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMB-rnHo5eI&feature=PlayList&p=B9F278C...
>
> > On Feb 5, 7:53 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Yes Ian, the Constitution, the Bible and other works are merely
> > > representative of the time in which they were drafted. I see them now
> > > as antiquated relics of the past. However, laws aside, morals
> > > abandoned, let's address the issue for what it really is. Our innate
> > > sense of fear and self preservation takes precedence over any and all
> > > law except the law of nature itself. In ancient pre-gun history
> > > people defended themselves with weaponry that was relevant to the
> > > time. No one did not own a sword because it was against the law to
> > > own. Swords killed as it was their purpose to do so. People did not
> > > hunt with swords, they used arrow and spear, but that is not the
> > > point. When there was an intrusion whether upon a home or a community
> > > from a hostile neighboring clan, people gathered their weaponry to
> > > defend themselves. They were not helpless due to a law that forbade
> > > them the right to own arms. The intruders were no less and no more
> > > armed and the confrontation was on equal ground. Weapons in our time
> > > have changed, even owning a gun may not match up to the weapon of the
> > > intruder should it be a machine gun, but what remains the same is the
> > > right to bear arms for self preservation.
> > > Now, if my government could "guarantee", which it can't, that no one
> > > will have possession of guns then I would feel more comfortable
> > > knowing that if an intruder broke into my home he would not have a
> > > firearm. Unfortunately, criminals have guns and therefore people must
> > > have the right to own a weapon comparable to that of the intruder.
> > > No one can take away our right of self preservation via any means
> > > available. You can't fight a war with rocks when the enemy has
> > > cannons. Defending ourselves, as citizens, against criminals "IS" a
> > > war. I know I can't depend on the police department as they might
> > > just as soon shoot me instead of the criminal. I'd rather just simply
> > > disable the intruder and then call the police.
> > > Unfortunately, humans are a species which finds self predation a
> > > viable means of survival, it's cannibalism. Don't have any money?
> > > Just kill your neighbor and take his. Don't have any food? Just kill
> > > the people at the market and take what you need. Need a car? Just
> > > steal one from someone else. It's the sad state of the human
> > > condition, it is sickness, it is sad, but as long as it is the way it
> > > is, I won't have any qualms about taking out some of the garbage.
> > > Obviously the government thinks it is better to put murderers and
> > > rapists in prison for awhile and then let them out so they can kill
> > > and rape again. Society would be better off without these defective
> > > people but probably the influence of chrisitians in government changed
> > > the way we mete out justice, not sure, just glad I'm not one.
>
> > > On Feb 5, 8:53 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > 2009/2/5 Lee <[email protected]>
>
> > > > > My comment about America, is really my admision that I have no idea
> > > > > what should be done for the best there. Many Americans will not give
> > > > > up their right to bear arms, and as it is enshrined in their law, then
> > > > > I really don't see why they should, however the title of this thread
> > > > > is Guns in Britain, and as a residant I say that we neither require
> > > > > them nor want them.
>
> > > > Lee, there does seem to be almost doctrinal reverence given to U.S.
> > > > Constitution and Bill of Rights. Being English I don't get it at all,
> > > > especially considering how continuously the articles are exploited
> > > > beyond
> > > > their original purpose and all the ill that has come of them. Maybe the
> > > > Constitution would have been less like horseshit had Jefferson and
> > > > Adams --
> > > > who have always struck me as the only sharp tools in a box of very dull
> > > > ones
> > > > -- not been in France smoking opium during the Philadelphia Convention?
>
> > > > I'm mostly joking, of course, but I do hold to the point that writing
> > > > something down 218 years ago (which may have seemed like a really idea
> > > > at
> > > > the time) is probably due a blank piece of a paper by now. Even
> > > > Christians
> > > > treat the Bible like a wiki, maybe the Colonials should follow this
> > > > example
> > > > with their moldy Constitution?
>
> > > > Ian- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
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