I wish we could look deeper into the structures that have brought
about this mess.  I like the idea of small and local-global for most
things as I don't cotton to the idea that whizz-kids know much other
than how to use and hide insider information.  Obama was sliming up to
the ghastly Blair yesterday and this makes me wonder whether he just
has a sharp eye to what sounds good rather than policies.  Capitalism
readjusts itself as a rule and I think this will be the problem - the
same old stuff will emerge again when we really need deeper change
towards more justice in law and reward.

On 5 Feb, 14:51, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> Chris, the President definitely has a disconnect with Congress -- even
> in his own party there is Reid and Pelosi to contend with and they are
> both 'over the edge' from my perspective.  I'm familiar with both of
> them (though I don't know them) since I spend many years in Nevada and
> watched Reid climb the political ladder and spent a few years in the
> Bay area where I got to watch Pelosi in action.  Neither one are what
> I would call respectable, honest and forthright politicians and I'd
> get rid of both of them if it were possible.   I think Obama is trying
> to take a rational approach to the problems we face but he's got the
> Republicans which don't appear to be inclined toward bipartisian
> politics and then Reid and Pelosi trying to be the most liberal
> Democrats they can be.
>
> There's no doubt that an influx of government money is needed, not
> only here, but in every developed country around the world.  The only
> problem we have here in the U.S. is the argument over how the money is
> to be spent and who it is given to.  The first $350 billion that went
> to the banks went straight into their vaults as a hedge against the
> unknown amount of toxic risk they have still out against them, so they
> want to shore up their assets as a hedge against a complete blowout.
> I don't think this is a bad thing because if the banks all fail, then
> we all go down.
>
> Your thoughts on the SBA (Small Business Admin.) are good and I hope
> it gets a bundle of those billions, but to date, the SBA's llong
> history has been one of doing much of nothing.  You have to be a saint
> with deep connections to get a decent loan from them to start a
> business and they've never been known to lend money to a business that
> is ailing.
>
> On Feb 4, 1:12 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > After a spirited round of spitting and hissing on my comments, I posted this
> > on my Facebook profile. Since the audience (with a couple of notable
> > exceptions) is so different here, I thought I'd post here as well, just to
> > get a feel for how different the feedback is:
> > A few thoughts on economic stimulus by an infamous know it all...
>
> > When the signs of impending economic distress became impossible to ignore
> > last year, the various heads of government agencies overseeing such things
> > gave a shopping list of reasons for why this crisis had occurred. In the mad
> > rush to "do something about it", they passed a bill which began at 750
> > Billion in the House, and swelled to over 800 Billion by the time it cleared
> > the Senate. It was signed with grand flourish by a grinning President, who
> > with extraordinary hubris, declared "Good Job, Brownie!" once again to the
> > American people, while passing out incomprehensibly large checks to his best
> > friends in the industry on his way out of office.
>
> > Now, four months later, a new President is championing a new bill which
> > contains many of the same types of barrels of pork as the last one. Although
> > the madcap grin has been replaced by a sense of grim determination, and an
> > impressive mechanism for oversight, there still exists within the hallowed
> > halls of Congress a certain disconnect with reality that this oh so earnest
> > President is not doing anything to counter:
>
> >http://patriotroom.com/article/pelosi-the-stupidest-
> > thing-any-politician-has-ever-said
>
> > It's easy to forget that our elected representatives are not economists.
> > They rely on others for data, opinions, input. Each of us has the ability to
> > research, study, theorize and quantify, and based on recent voting
> > commentary, if you read the entire contents of the legislation that your
> > representative voted on in the last full session, you actually did more work
> > than your average representative.
>
> > With that in mind, here would be the key points in legislation tentatively
> > titled, the Chris Jenkins Economic Stimulus Plan from the Common Man of
> > 2009:
>
> > 1. The 'Breather Period' - This all started with the mortgage industry,
> > Fannie and Freddie, et al. Any Stimulus package passed now should make a
> > final action on that root cause of the crisis, since all previous action
> > have failed to have any substantial impact on the housing market and banking
> > industry. Money given directly to the banks has been squandered in bonuses
> > and expansion and lobbying efforts by the banks, providing zero relief to
> > the consumers. Therefore, my plan sets forth funds to guarantee the primary
> > mortgage payment of all owners of one home up to $1000 per month for a
> > period of six months. This will provide a temporary guaranteed security on
> > mortgaged based bonds, and will provide a six month respite from what is
> > typically the most expensive bill in the house for middle class families.
> > This portion of the plan will stimulate both retail and savings sectors, and
> > will shore up lending institutions while providing immediate value to
> > securitized instruments. At the end of the six month period, financial
> > institutions who have not successfully purged toxic assets will be expected
> > to bear the financial responsibility for their poor stewardship, as will
> > consumers.
>
> > Projected Cost: 240 Billion based on 40 Million mortgaged properties.
>
> > 2. The 'Real Small Business Administration' - One of the most effective ways
> > that Microsoft was able to corner the networking market was to personally
> > sponsor the growth of Microsoft trained engineers via the Microsoft Career
> > Loan Program. It created a trained and ready workforce able to support the
> > products that Microsoft was rolling out to a new market. President Obama has
> > proposed a series of large scale, long term infrastructure projects which
> > could bear fruit, but it takes far less resources, and returns dividends
> > much more quickly, to invest in the American small business infrastructure.
> > The current SBA loan structure qualification rules are here:
>
> >http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_
> > sec_15_00000636----000-.html
>
> > I'll make it easy for you to understand. You don't qualify for a small
> > business loan. With layoffs and unemployment at record highs, startup small
> > business, freelancing and consultancies are natural channels for skilled
> > workers to continue to participate in the economy. I propose funding be
> > disbursed to the States to provide resources for skilled workers including
> > enhanced funding for SCORE (they are never open, impossible to get an
> > appointment with, and don't have anyone there who understands the internet,
> > much less Web 2.0), low interest long term lines of credit for
> > infrastructure and inventory purchases (secured by inventory), and other
> > "collective" type small business resources. Proposed disbursedment: $10
> > Million per Representative
>
> > Projected Cost: 43.5 Billion
>
> > 3. Passage of HR 5842 and HR 5843 followed by passage in the Senate and
> > adoption into law - This one's a no brainer. Ron Paul and Barney Frank have
> > some common sense legislation sitting in committee right now to take the
> > cannabis issue out of the Federal government's hands, and put it back in the
> > State's hands, where it belongs. Pass the bills, send them to the house, set
> > up the appropriate Federal tax stamps, watch the money roll in.
>
> > Projected Cost: 0
>
> > Projected Immediate Savings: Nearly $10 Billion per year
>
> > Projected future tax revenue: from $3-30 Billion per year
>
> > 4. Emergency Family Aid Services - many community based social services such
> > as the Basic Four program are straining to carry the load right now. These
> > programs are critical to the working poor and under-employed, and are
> > running short due to the high demand. I propose funds be disbursed to shore
> > up community services which provide survival level services such as
> > groceries, utility vouchers, emergency rent vouchers, etc. Proposed
> > disbursement: $15 Million per representative
>
> > Projected Cost: 87 Billion
>
> > 5. 'The 100 X 100 Social Benefit Grants' - With the proceeds of point 3,
> > this act will pay for 100 grants of 100 Million dollars each, 10 apiece in
> > each of the following categories:
>
> > Urban Renewal
> > Agriculture
> > Sustainable Development
> > Alternative Energy
> > Telecommunications Infrastructure
> > Mass Transportation
> > Educational Technology
> > Arts and Culture
> > Biomedical Technology
>
> > An oversight board would be appointed with principals in each field to
> > review the grant applications based on feasibility, rapidity of deployment,
> > total jobs created, and total social benefit. Because these are tax payer
> > funded social benefit grants, the desired end result would be a social
> > benefit which would be free or of inconsequential cost to the taxpayer.
> > Examples include Google's nationwide WiFi network plan, seamless
> > improvements to existing power and telecom infrastructures with no pass
> > through cost, public museums and libraries which provide technology
> > resources, etc.
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