What is Freedom or Liberty, or Emancipation... and how does that all work in an interactive "social" or even a more specific economic group setting? Indeed - I'm reminded that Anthony Flew, in answering "what is courage?" simply wrote "this is" leaving the rest of his exam paper blank. I believe we make a mistake if we try to establish such stuff without working out how we intend to allow others into the decisions and creating - and this is a very complex question involving what we have been calling democracy. The trick would be a form of argument more than chattering class dross and a system of planned evaluations as matters progressed. It's my view we would not be focused on words, but forms of some kind, especially in the leadership-followership area. I have no doubt we need emancipation, but presumably not to my whim or the next Mugabe. There is much we could learn from groupwork here and the extent to which we remain ape in bids for leadership and the rest. This stuff needs to get into our talking and feeling in different ways than we are used to.
On 5 Feb, 23:11, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Zizek said something somewhere about being able to talk without fear > of chronic power relations. I think the dismal existential position > is a combination of this fear and a kind of mock bravery in its face. > We need some fellowship before we can speak thus. > > On 5 Feb, 10:42, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > If you believe someone is hiding something from you and/or oneself and > > you don't ask that person about it, you have to wait for a revelation. > > Same applies to flowers in a four season area. > > > On 5 Feb., 03:36, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > gabbers, is that what is meant by revelation? (along with faith of > > > course.) > > > > On Feb 4, 1:52 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Interesting perspective, very artsy indeed. The casual Christian bible > > > > believer is taught that the beaten down Jesus on the cross is the > > > > devine son, is me in another dimension, so to speak. > > > > > On 4 Feb., 21:27, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The 'beaten down' aspect comes from existentialism in general. This > > > > > misaprehension denies us of the divine. > > > > > > On Feb 4, 9:00 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I would add that one does not need to know what human emancipation > > > > > > is > > > > > > before trying to create it, or perhaps better, "go for it". I > > > > > > suspect > > > > > > most humans are actually so beaten down that they do not imagine a > > > > > > future as part of their present. > > > > > > > On 4 Feb, 16:55, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes Neil, when the focus is on words, true wisdom is missed. > > > > > > > Some do lean toward being practical, including analysis. Others > > > > > > > towards doing a comparison with the past. And, there exist the > > > > > > > empaths. We know all three and seldom know why we lean toward one > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > the other. > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 10:15 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The answer is that Foucault couldn't reduce any anxiety and that > > > > > > > > Derrida has really only shown we should be less sure of more or > > > > > > > > less > > > > > > > > everything, which I do find reassuring. The warning in both is > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > totalising forms of thinking. My preference is for good old > > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > > pragmatism and practical scientific methods where we can apply > > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > Derrida can be read as asserting poetics and humour. There is > > > > > > > > a long > > > > > > > > history of aporia, which we might take as revelling in roads to > > > > > > > > nowhere, as in the song, or as despair in Wittgenstein that > > > > > > > > language > > > > > > > > bewitches us in making us ask the same old questions, rather > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > devise new ones. > > > > > > > > > On 1 Feb, 03:52, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, and when you get to where that road take you, > > > > > > > > > be sure to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. > > > > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE > > > > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:09 AM, nominal9 > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Paul: > > > > > > > > > > I am "diametrically opposed" epistemologically to the > > > > > > > > > > Phenomenalist > > > > > > > > > > position. Nice to meet you, however.... > > > > > > > > > > "Does Merleau-Ponty 'fill in the gaps' that Heidegger > > > > > > > > > > left?".... Blind > > > > > > > > > > leading the Blind.... > > > > > > > > > > " Do Foucault or Derrida give you a path out of modern > > > > > > > > > > anxiety? > > > > > > > > > > ".....Follow the Yellow Brick Road..... > > > > > > > > > > > nominal9 > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 6:36 am, Paul Grieg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> This is one of my favourite philosophy interviews: > > > > > > > > > > >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaGk6S1qhz0&feature=related > > > > > > > > > > >> Can any of you answer these questions: > > > > > > > > > > >> Does Merleau-Ponty 'fill in the gaps' that Heidegger left? > > > > > > > > > > >> Do Foucault or Derrida give you a path out of modern > > > > > > > > > >> anxiety?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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