One notes that in all the plethora of lawyers, access to justice is
poor if you are poor.

On 9 Feb, 02:58, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> On the other hand, relocation may cause problems too. My father was
> attorney general of a mid-western state for a while. A few years
> later, he relocated to Florida. They told him outright that he would
> never pass the bar there because they already had plenty of lawyers.
> They were right. . . and he even had a photographic memory! Politics.
>
> On Feb 8, 4:35 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > A quick look through the yellow pages in your city will give you an
> > idea of the competitive edge you either have or don't have concerning
> > the status of your legal expertise, if 1/3 of the pages are attorney
> > listings, it's not looking too good. Many attorneys get stuck on the
> > pro bono and public defender carousel.  My daughter is extremely lucky
> > as having passed the CA. bar the second time around and then finding a
> > position as assistant DA.  However the position is temporary and
> > subject to termination at any time. Sometimes relocation is the answer
> > to increasing your chances of success.  I had a friend once that
> > wouldn't leave his area in order to stay with his family, the result
> > was a PhD working at the supermarket instead of his chosen field.  My
> > wife and I are alone at home now with all the kids living out of
> > state.  The upside is a reason for great road trips.
>
> > On Feb 8, 3:24 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Well it makes me feel better knowing that I'm not the only legal
> > > personality wasting my time on the internet. ;)
>
> > > On Feb 8, 2:05 pm, RichardM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > As a law professor, I find this highly illuminating.
>
> > > > On Feb 8, 12:34 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I don't know how to take that comment KC, but yes it was a CP.
> > > > > However, I do have some experience writing legal contracts, imagine
> > > > > that!
>
> > > > > On Feb 8, 9:55 am, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Slip,
> > > > > > Please tell me you copied and pasted that.  I can't imagine how long
> > > > > > that would have taken you to write otherwise.
>
> > > > > > On Feb 7, 10:29 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I guess the answer is no, KC, so let me explain;
>
> > > > > > > Such number as may be deemed necessary to perform the stated task 
> > > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > timely and efficient manner within the strictures of the following
> > > > > > > agreement. Whereas the party of the first part, also known as 'the
> > > > > > > lawyers' and the party of the second part, also known as 'the 
> > > > > > > light
> > > > > > > bulb' do hereby agree to a transaction wherein the party of the 
> > > > > > > second
> > > > > > > part (light bulb) shall be removed from the current position as a
> > > > > > > result of failure to perform previously agreed upon duties, i.e. 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > lighting, elucidation, and otherwise illumination of the area 
> > > > > > > ranging
> > > > > > > from the front (North) door, through the entryway, terminating at 
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > area just through the primary living area, demarcated by the 
> > > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > of the carpet, any spillover illumination being at the option of 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > party of the second part (light bulb) and not required by the
> > > > > > > aforementioned agreement between the parties. The aforementioned
> > > > > > > removal transaction shall include, but not be limited to, the
> > > > > > > following steps:
>
> > > > > > > 1. The party of the first part (lawyer) shall, with or without
> > > > > > > elevation at his option, by means of a chair, step stool, ladder 
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > any other means of elevation, grasp the party of the second part
> > > > > > > (light bulb) and rotate the party of the second part (light bulb) 
> > > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > counter clockwise direction, said direction being non-negotiable. 
> > > > > > > Said
> > > > > > > grasping and rotation of the party of the second part (light bulb)
> > > > > > > shall be undertaken by the party of the first part (lawyer) to
> > > > > > > maintain the structural integrity of the party of the second part
> > > > > > > (light bulb), notwithstanding the aforementioned failure of the 
> > > > > > > party
> > > > > > > of the second part (light bulb) to perform the customary and 
> > > > > > > agreed
> > > > > > > upon duties. The foregoing notwithstanding, however, both parties
> > > > > > > stipulate that structural failure of the party of the second part
> > > > > > > (light bulb) may be incidental to the aforementioned failure to
> > > > > > > perform and in such case the party of the first part (lawyer) 
> > > > > > > shall be
> > > > > > > held blameless for such structural failure insofar as the non-
> > > > > > > negotiable directional codicil (counter-clockwise) is observed by 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > party of the first part (lawyer) throughout.
>
> > > > > > > 2. Upon reaching a point where the party of the second part (light
> > > > > > > bulb) becomes separated from the party of the third part
> > > > > > > ('receptacle'), the party of the first part shall have the option 
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > disposing of the party of the second part (light bulb) in a manner
> > > > > > > consistent with all applicable state, local, and federal statutes.
>
> > > > > > > 3. Once seperation and disposal have been achieved, the party of 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > first part (lawyer) shall have the option of beginning the
> > > > > > > installation of the party of the fourth part ('new light bulb'). 
> > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > installation shall occur in a manner consistent with the reverse
> > > > > > > procedures described in step one of this self same document, being
> > > > > > > careful to note that the rotation should occur in a clockwise
> > > > > > > direction, said direction also being non-negotiable and only 
> > > > > > > until the
> > > > > > > party of the fourth part (new light bulb) becomes snug in the 
> > > > > > > party of
> > > > > > > the third part (receptacle) and in fact becomes the party of the
> > > > > > > second part (light bulb).
>
> > > > > > > Note: The above described steps may be performed, at the option 
> > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > party of the first part (lawyer), by said party of the first part
> > > > > > > (lawyer), or by his or her heirs and assigns, or by any and all
> > > > > > > persons authorized by him or her to do same the objective being to
> > > > > > > produce a level of illumination in the immediate vicinity of the
> > > > > > > aforementioned front (North) door consistent with maximization of
> > > > > > > ingress and revenue for the party of the fifth part, also known as
> > > > > > > 'The Firm'.
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 7, 8:39 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Do you know how many lawyers it takes to change a light bulb KC?
>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 4:09 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Ok Slip, I don't know if your joking now or not, so I'll let 
> > > > > > > > > you know,
> > > > > > > > > I was joking.  I thought my sarcasm and humor was pretty 
> > > > > > > > > thick, but
> > > > > > > > > maybe not.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 3:07 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > You know I was thinking it too?  Wow!
>
> > > > > > > > > > Truthfully,  I was not thinking any such thing not even 
> > > > > > > > > > remotely, get
> > > > > > > > > > a grip my friend!
>
> > > > > > > > > > Perhaps this is self revealing and something that you 
> > > > > > > > > > should examine
> > > > > > > > > > about yourself.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Paranoia is a bad thing KC.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 3:55 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I was only replying to your comment because you 
> > > > > > > > > > > identified the author,
> > > > > > > > > > > my comment was really aimed at Fran.  BUT I know you were 
> > > > > > > > > > > thinking it
> > > > > > > > > > > too.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2:53 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > How do you perceive my identification of the quote as 
> > > > > > > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > > > > implication??
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Are you implying something about me?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 3:39 pm, Kierkecraig 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So is the implication that I am a Nazi?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2:32 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's from Hitler’s Zweites Buch.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 3:19 pm, frantheman 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Feb., 21:51, Don Johnson <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > victor david hanson?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:45 PM, frantheman 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Feb., 01:29, frantheman 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Nietzsche was a genius, and very troubled 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> man. He can be mined for all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> sorts of ideas and inspirations and much of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> it is misrepresentational.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Personally, I've never been convinced of his 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> glorification of Homeric
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Greece and Sparta, as well as his working of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the master-slave theme,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> although others have found it inspiring:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> "At one time the Spartans were capable of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> such a wise measure, but not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> our present, mendaciously sentimental, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> bourgeois patriotic nonsense.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The rule of six thousand Spartans over three 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> hundred and fifty
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> thousand Helots was only thinkable in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> consequence of the high racial
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> value of the Spartans. But this was the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> result of a systematic race
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> preservation; thus Sparta must be regarded 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> as the first Völkisch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> State. The exposure of sick, weak, deformed 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> children, in short their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> destruction, was more decent and in truth a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> thousand times more humane
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> than the wretched insanity of our day which 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> preserves the most
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> pathological subject, and indeed at any 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> price, and yet takes the life
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> of a hundred thousand healthy children in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> consequence of birth control
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> or through abortions, in order subsequently 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> to breed a race of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> degenerates burdened with illnesses."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Three guesses who wrote that, as well as the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> following:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I may
>
> > ...
>
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