I guess the answer is no, KC, so let me explain;
Such number as may be deemed necessary to perform the stated task in a
timely and efficient manner within the strictures of the following
agreement. Whereas the party of the first part, also known as 'the
lawyers' and the party of the second part, also known as 'the light
bulb' do hereby agree to a transaction wherein the party of the second
part (light bulb) shall be removed from the current position as a
result of failure to perform previously agreed upon duties, i.e. the
lighting, elucidation, and otherwise illumination of the area ranging
from the front (North) door, through the entryway, terminating at an
area just through the primary living area, demarcated by the beginning
of the carpet, any spillover illumination being at the option of the
party of the second part (light bulb) and not required by the
aforementioned agreement between the parties. The aforementioned
removal transaction shall include, but not be limited to, the
following steps:
1. The party of the first part (lawyer) shall, with or without
elevation at his option, by means of a chair, step stool, ladder or
any other means of elevation, grasp the party of the second part
(light bulb) and rotate the party of the second part (light bulb) in a
counter clockwise direction, said direction being non-negotiable. Said
grasping and rotation of the party of the second part (light bulb)
shall be undertaken by the party of the first part (lawyer) to
maintain the structural integrity of the party of the second part
(light bulb), notwithstanding the aforementioned failure of the party
of the second part (light bulb) to perform the customary and agreed
upon duties. The foregoing notwithstanding, however, both parties
stipulate that structural failure of the party of the second part
(light bulb) may be incidental to the aforementioned failure to
perform and in such case the party of the first part (lawyer) shall be
held blameless for such structural failure insofar as the non-
negotiable directional codicil (counter-clockwise) is observed by the
party of the first part (lawyer) throughout.
2. Upon reaching a point where the party of the second part (light
bulb) becomes separated from the party of the third part
('receptacle'), the party of the first part shall have the option of
disposing of the party of the second part (light bulb) in a manner
consistent with all applicable state, local, and federal statutes.
3. Once seperation and disposal have been achieved, the party of the
first part (lawyer) shall have the option of beginning the
installation of the party of the fourth part ('new light bulb'). This
installation shall occur in a manner consistent with the reverse
procedures described in step one of this self same document, being
careful to note that the rotation should occur in a clockwise
direction, said direction also being non-negotiable and only until the
party of the fourth part (new light bulb) becomes snug in the party of
the third part (receptacle) and in fact becomes the party of the
second part (light bulb).
Note: The above described steps may be performed, at the option of the
party of the first part (lawyer), by said party of the first part
(lawyer), or by his or her heirs and assigns, or by any and all
persons authorized by him or her to do same the objective being to
produce a level of illumination in the immediate vicinity of the
aforementioned front (North) door consistent with maximization of
ingress and revenue for the party of the fifth part, also known as
'The Firm'.
On Feb 7, 8:39 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Do you know how many lawyers it takes to change a light bulb KC?
>
> On Feb 7, 4:09 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Ok Slip, I don't know if your joking now or not, so I'll let you know,
> > I was joking. I thought my sarcasm and humor was pretty thick, but
> > maybe not.
>
> > On Feb 7, 3:07 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > You know I was thinking it too? Wow!
>
> > > Truthfully, I was not thinking any such thing not even remotely, get
> > > a grip my friend!
>
> > > Perhaps this is self revealing and something that you should examine
> > > about yourself.
>
> > > Paranoia is a bad thing KC.
>
> > > On Feb 7, 3:55 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I was only replying to your comment because you identified the author,
> > > > my comment was really aimed at Fran. BUT I know you were thinking it
> > > > too.
>
> > > > On Feb 7, 2:53 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > How do you perceive my identification of the quote as any
> > > > > implication??
>
> > > > > Are you implying something about me?
>
> > > > > On Feb 7, 3:39 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > So is the implication that I am a Nazi?
>
> > > > > > On Feb 7, 2:32 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > It's from Hitler’s Zweites Buch.
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 7, 3:19 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Nope.
>
> > > > > > > > On 7 Feb., 21:51, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > victor david hanson?
>
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:45 PM, frantheman
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On 7 Feb., 01:29, frantheman <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> Nietzsche was a genius, and very troubled man. He can be
> > > > > > > > > >> mined for all
> > > > > > > > > >> sorts of ideas and inspirations and much of it is
> > > > > > > > > >> misrepresentational.
> > > > > > > > > >> Personally, I've never been convinced of his glorification
> > > > > > > > > >> of Homeric
> > > > > > > > > >> Greece and Sparta, as well as his working of the
> > > > > > > > > >> master-slave theme,
> > > > > > > > > >> although others have found it inspiring:
>
> > > > > > > > > >> "At one time the Spartans were capable of such a wise
> > > > > > > > > >> measure, but not
> > > > > > > > > >> our present, mendaciously sentimental, bourgeois patriotic
> > > > > > > > > >> nonsense.
> > > > > > > > > >> The rule of six thousand Spartans over three hundred and
> > > > > > > > > >> fifty
> > > > > > > > > >> thousand Helots was only thinkable in consequence of the
> > > > > > > > > >> high racial
> > > > > > > > > >> value of the Spartans. But this was the result of a
> > > > > > > > > >> systematic race
> > > > > > > > > >> preservation; thus Sparta must be regarded as the first
> > > > > > > > > >> Völkisch
> > > > > > > > > >> State. The exposure of sick, weak, deformed children, in
> > > > > > > > > >> short their
> > > > > > > > > >> destruction, was more decent and in truth a thousand times
> > > > > > > > > >> more humane
> > > > > > > > > >> than the wretched insanity of our day which preserves the
> > > > > > > > > >> most
> > > > > > > > > >> pathological subject, and indeed at any price, and yet
> > > > > > > > > >> takes the life
> > > > > > > > > >> of a hundred thousand healthy children in consequence of
> > > > > > > > > >> birth control
> > > > > > > > > >> or through abortions, in order subsequently to breed a
> > > > > > > > > >> race of
> > > > > > > > > >> degenerates burdened with illnesses."
>
> > > > > > > > > >> Three guesses who wrote that, as well as the following:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I may not have expressed this clearly. The author was NOT
> > > > > > > > > > Nietzsche.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> "But for the coming of Christianity, who knows how the
> > > > > > > > > >> history of
> > > > > > > > > >> Europe would have developed? Rome would have conquered all
> > > > > > > > > >> Europe, and
> > > > > > > > > >> the onrush of the Huns would have been broken on the
> > > > > > > > > >> legions. It was
> > > > > > > > > >> Christianity that brought about the fall of Rome—not the
> > > > > > > > > >> Germans or
> > > > > > > > > >> the Huns. What Bolshevism is achieving to-day on the
> > > > > > > > > >> materialist and
> > > > > > > > > >> technical level, Christianity had achieved on the
> > > > > > > > > >> metaphysical level.
> > > > > > > > > >> When the Crown sees the throne totter, it needs the
> > > > > > > > > >> support of the
> > > > > > > > > >> masses."
>
> > > > > > > > > >> Francis
>
> > > > > > > > > >> On 6 Feb., 23:32, Kierkecraig <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > Fran,
> > > > > > > > > >> > I really don't have much of a philosophy that I'm
> > > > > > > > > >> > seriously committed
> > > > > > > > > >> > to. More or less I just like to get riled up. I WISH I
> > > > > > > > > >> > was committed
> > > > > > > > > >> > to a philosophy, or a view of the world. If pushed, I
> > > > > > > > > >> > do get quite
> > > > > > > > > >> > sick of the world though that you espouse. I long for
> > > > > > > > > >> > the type of
> > > > > > > > > >> > society that Nietzsche speaks of. He spoke so very
> > > > > > > > > >> > highly of pre-
> > > > > > > > > >> > Socratic greece. Society such as Sparta, and
> > > > > > > > > >> > pre-Socratic Athens.
> > > > > > > > > >> > Those were cultures that gloried in strength. They
> > > > > > > > > >> > didn't adopt the
> > > > > > > > > >> > slave mentality that Christianity has heaped upon us all.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > Its so popular now for us to speak so badly of
> > > > > > > > > >> > Christianity, and yet
> > > > > > > > > >> > what we don't realize is that the world is by and large
> > > > > > > > > >> > Christian,
> > > > > > > > > >> > whether they know it or not. No of course they don't
> > > > > > > > > >> > say they believe
> > > > > > > > > >> > in Jesus. No, they don't read the Bible. No, they
> > > > > > > > > >> > probably don't
> > > > > > > > > >> > even believe in God. But as far as philosophy and world
> > > > > > > > > >> > view goes,
> > > > > > > > > >> > they are died in the wool Christian. Its the
> > > > > > > > > >> > Judeo-Christian world
> > > > > > > > > >> > view that Nietzsche pointed out gives birth to Nihilism.
> > > > > > > > > >> > Judeo-
> > > > > > > > > >> > Christian world view is based on slave mentality. It
> > > > > > > > > >> > breeds a culture
> > > > > > > > > >> > of weaklings. Those who would otherwise be strong and
> > > > > > > > > >> > powerful and
> > > > > > > > > >> > contribute to a strong and powerful culture, they get
> > > > > > > > > >> > driven down into
> > > > > > > > > >> > the dust by slave morality, and everyone is equally
> > > > > > > > > >> > pathetic.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > This is what I am on about today. If you want the
> > > > > > > > > >> > honest truth, Bush
> > > > > > > > > >> > was an evangelical Christian, and was part of the
> > > > > > > > > >> > problem, not the
> > > > > > > > > >> > solution. But relatively speaking, he was stronger and
> > > > > > > > > >> > less pathetic
> > > > > > > > > >> > than most.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > On Feb 6, 3:16 pm, frantheman
> > > > > > > > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > Craig, I find your world-view strange and hard to
> > > > > > > > > >> > > understand. What is
> > > > > > > > > >> > > "today's pansy laden society?" I am an Irishman,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > living in Germany. I
> > > > > > > > > >> > > do not perceive and experience either the country of
> > > > > > > > > >> > > my birth, or the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > country in which I live, as "downtrodden and
> > > > > > > > > >> > > defeated". We are all
> > > > > > > > > >> > > going through a rough time at the moment (and it will
> > > > > > > > > >> > > get worse) as a
> > > > > > > > > >> > > result of greed and stupidity in those responsible for
> > > > > > > > > >> > > economic
> > > > > > > > > >> > > affairs in our societies. Such a crisis calls us to
> > > > > > > > > >> > > examine the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > principles according to which we organise our communal
> > > > > > > > > >> > > life and effect
> > > > > > > > > >> > > changes. As such, it is also an opportunity.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > I have the impression - I may be mistaken - that you
> > > > > > > > > >> > > see a particular
> > > > > > > > > >> > > model/interpretation of the "American way of life", as
> > > > > > > > > >> > > being
> > > > > > > > > >> > > simultaneously better than all others and under acute
> > > > > > > > > >> > > threat, both
> > > > > > > > > >> > > from within the US and without. I do not share this
> > > > > > > > > >> > > way of looking at
> > > > > > > > > >> > > the world. I live in a western European country, where
> > > > > > > > > >> > > much, like
> > > > > > > > > >> > > everywhere else, is imperfect and some things are in a
> > > > > > > > > >> > > bit of a mess.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > Nevertheless, I feel free and secure. It is a society
> > > > > > > > > >> > > where a basic
> > > > > > > > > >> > > level of assent and consent is present, where,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > generally, peace, the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > rule of law and a strong sense of civil rights
> > > > > > > > > >> > > prevail. It is a
> > > > > > > > > >> > > culture which, with some exceptions, does have a sense
> > > > > > > > > >> > > of fundamental
> > > > > > > > > >> > > decency, where there is a basic solidarity with those
> > > > > > > > > >> > > who are weaker
> > > > > > > > > >> > > and a deeply-rooted desire to hand a more or less
> > > > > > > > > >> > > viable world on to
> > > > > > > > > >> > > our children and grandchildren.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > The Cold War has been over for twenty years now, and I
> > > > > > > > > >> > > do not feel
> > > > > > > > > >> > > threatened by the East. I do see a future in which the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > most populous
> > > > > > > > > >> > > nations of the world (in particular, the Asian
> > > > > > > > > >> > > countries of China and
> > > > > > > > > >> > > India) will have much more influence on a global
> > > > > > > > > >> > > scale, something
> > > > > > > > > >> > > which is only just, giving that the two nations I have
> > > > > > > > > >> > > mentioned alone
> > > > > > > > > >> > > are home to one third of the world's population. I
> > > > > > > > > >> > > think there is a
> > > > > > > > > >> > > good chance that their continuing economic development
> > > > > > > > > >> > > will be
> > > > > > > > > >> > > paralleled (causally, it could be argued) by positive
> > > > > > > > > >> > > developments in
> > > > > > > > > >> > > civil society (I'm thinking of China particularly
> > > > > > > > > >> > > here). But maybe one
> > > > > > > > > >> > > of the lessons we can learn from the Bush era is that
> > > > > > > > > >> > > these
> > > > > > > > > >> > > developments will not be furthered by forcing a
> > > > > > > > > >> > > particular vision of
> > > > > > > > > >> > > how societies should be ordered through the barrel of
> > > > > > > > > >> > > a gun, or
> > > > > > > > > >> > > economic bullying. The developing countries, as well
> > > > > > > > > >> > > as the tiger
> > > > > > > > > >> > > economies, have an acute sense of having been
> > > > > > > > > >> > > historically dominated
> > > > > > > > > >> > > and exploited by the west - rightly for the most part
> > > > > > > > > >> > > - and this makes
> > > > > > > > > >> > > them sensitive about and suspicious of what they
> > > > > > > > > >> > > perceive as
> > > > > > > > > >> > > condescending preaching (and incidental defense of the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > status quo) by
> > > > > > > > > >> > > the West.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > The values formulated in
>
> ...
>
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