I stuck a Leggo up my nose when I was about one year old.  So far I
had to go to the emergency room.  Was this the beginning of a long and
lustrous career in cybernetics or a boneheaded kid thing that only
lead to chronic sinus trouble and one nostril being larger then the
other?  I'll give you three guesses.

dj


On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Chris Jenkins
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> :^D Perhaps you are thinking too late in age, Slip. You never popped a
> wheel off a car when you were 4? 3? 2? This is common childhood
> behaviour, so if it never occurred for you, perhaps you were
> exemplary.
>
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I think that it may be a generalization on your part Chris in the "we"
>> reference, as many children, myself included, cherished anything that
>> resembled a toy.  I never broke a toy in my life and would become very
>> adamant when my brother would waste away his, and sometimes mine.  I
>> meticulously cared for every toy I was ever lucky to receive, which
>> weren't many.  I had cousins that had everything and would destroy it
>> all in the rumpus room.  Toys that I envied were recklessly smashed by
>> those insolent little brats.  I still today buy for myself toys,
>> simple toys, toys that I could never afford to have.  I love my
>> gyroscope, my top and my RC cars.
>> I do understand what you are saying in that we don't really realize as
>> children the value of what we have received and in "that" we learn the
>> makings of it, the mechanism upon which some of us have the ability to
>> discover our desire to be one with it, as a career, as a hobby.
>> I'm sorry you broke all your toys, Chris, you might be one of my
>> distant cousins. LOL
>>
>>
>> On Feb 26, 4:09 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Sagir
>>> I don't think this is negativity, as much as learning. When we are
>>> children, we don't really mean to break our toy cars...at least not
>>> the first time we pull the wheel off. It just happens. The second
>>> time, we DO mean to pull the wheel off, but only because we are
>>> establishing a causative norm. At that point, however, we have a
>>> broken car, and we go crying to our Mom and Dad to fix it...and that
>>> then becomes our goal (hopefully), to learn how to fix it ourself.
>>>
>>> I see nothing negative in this process. It seems to me to be the
>>> natural order of growth and learning.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:24 PM, saghir anwar
>>>
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > hi...sir with due apology ,i will not endorse ur point of view.u started
>>> > from human nature that we break the toys in childhood and become engineers
>>> > when grow old.its our distructive instinct.we we groom ,we become rational
>>> > and utilize our energies to construct something in positive way.but we 
>>> > have
>>> > also seen that poorly groomed persons oftenly commit follies and get
>>> > irrepareable loss sometime.so we can manage to recover ,if we used our
>>> > faculties in a positive way...sorry to be critical but negitivity can not
>>> > bring positive results.thanx saghir
>>>
>>> > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > From: Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
>>> > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: It's too late for planet Earth
>>> > To: [email protected]
>>> > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 6:52 AM
>>>
>>> > I have a similar thought process. I often liken the macro of the human
>>> > race to the micro. When we are young, we break our toys, simply
>>> > pulling them apart. Some of us, as we get into our teen years, begin
>>> > disassembling small engines, and electronics, curious as to how they
>>> > work, attempting to reassemble them. A few of us go on to become
>>> > technicians of such things. As a civilization, we have done much the
>>> > same, randomly tearing things down as cavemen, becoming more precise
>>> > in our disassembly as an industrial nation, and hopefully, as an
>>> > advanced civilization of the future, we will become technicians,
>>> > reassembling the planet in a way which provides symbiotic sustenance
>>> > for all. I really don't see any reason that greenhouse skyscrapers
>>> > located in each metropolitan area couldn't provide local food sources
>>> > for the populace. This planet could reasonably sustain twice the
>>> > population, if we were managed effectively, and didn't piss in our own
>>> > bathwater.
>>>
>>> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Ian Pollard <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >> 2009/2/26 archytas <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> >>> Our current space vehicles
>>> >>> remind me someone of primitive spawning in plants - like a group of
>>> >>> algae forming a tower to boost one of their number from the surf to
>>> >>> the jet stream.
>>>
>>> >> I think there's little point investing any money on manned space
>>> > flight. The
>>> >> cost is too high and we -- being a short-lived species -- are not
>>> > especially
>>> >> suited to travelling the enormous distances of our galaxy.
>>>
>>> >> Lovelock reckons certain countries (the UK, parts of Canada, New Zealand,
>>> >> etc) will effectively become life rafts for the human population. These
>>> >> countries would be broken down into super-high density cities and areas 
>>> >> of
>>> >> intensive GM-farming (forget the current fixation about free-range
>>> > chickens,
>>> >> my hippy friends). The borders of these countries, sadly, would need to 
>>> >> be
>>> >> barricaded and policed to stop the unfortunates getting in.
>>>
>>> >> Ian
>> >
>>
>
> >
>

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