Perhaps I was exemplary at 432, really can't say positively but only
that I don't remember having that behavior.   I do have memories of my
first few years of life and if good memory would have it, clearly then
I would say everything that came before me sparked a sense of wonder,
the colors and shapes.   This may have been due to the fact that I was
born an artist and in art I found fascination and I viewed toys as
art.  I was a very passive child, one that avoided the ruckus of
childhood, my content being at peace away from the crowd.  I had
always been recognized by the family as being apart from the whole.
Still today it remains that way as I stand apart in every way from the
extended familial group in which there is no other akin to me. When it
comes to traits, I hardly even know them.  Common childhood behavior
is just that, common behavior, that does not apply to all.  I was more
amazed at how the wheel would spin on the axle than how it might be
broken off.  Truth is we didn't have much of anything and were lucky
to have whatever came along.  I don't recall ever having a toy chest.

On Feb 26, 5:11 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> :^D Perhaps you are thinking too late in age, Slip. You never popped a
> wheel off a car when you were 4? 3? 2? This is common childhood
> behaviour, so if it never occurred for you, perhaps you were
> exemplary.
>
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I think that it may be a generalization on your part Chris in the "we"
> > reference, as many children, myself included, cherished anything that
> > resembled a toy.  I never broke a toy in my life and would become very
> > adamant when my brother would waste away his, and sometimes mine.  I
> > meticulously cared for every toy I was ever lucky to receive, which
> > weren't many.  I had cousins that had everything and would destroy it
> > all in the rumpus room.  Toys that I envied were recklessly smashed by
> > those insolent little brats.  I still today buy for myself toys,
> > simple toys, toys that I could never afford to have.  I love my
> > gyroscope, my top and my RC cars.
> > I do understand what you are saying in that we don't really realize as
> > children the value of what we have received and in "that" we learn the
> > makings of it, the mechanism upon which some of us have the ability to
> > discover our desire to be one with it, as a career, as a hobby.
> > I'm sorry you broke all your toys, Chris, you might be one of my
> > distant cousins. LOL
>
> > On Feb 26, 4:09 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hi Sagir
> >> I don't think this is negativity, as much as learning. When we are
> >> children, we don't really mean to break our toy cars...at least not
> >> the first time we pull the wheel off. It just happens. The second
> >> time, we DO mean to pull the wheel off, but only because we are
> >> establishing a causative norm. At that point, however, we have a
> >> broken car, and we go crying to our Mom and Dad to fix it...and that
> >> then becomes our goal (hopefully), to learn how to fix it ourself.
>
> >> I see nothing negative in this process. It seems to me to be the
> >> natural order of growth and learning.
>
> >> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:24 PM, saghir anwar
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > hi...sir with due apology ,i will not endorse ur point of view.u started
> >> > from human nature that we break the toys in childhood and become 
> >> > engineers
> >> > when grow old.its our distructive instinct.we we groom ,we become 
> >> > rational
> >> > and utilize our energies to construct something in positive way.but we 
> >> > have
> >> > also seen that poorly groomed persons oftenly commit follies and get
> >> > irrepareable loss sometime.so we can manage to recover ,if we used our
> >> > faculties in a positive way...sorry to be critical but negitivity can not
> >> > bring positive results.thanx saghir
>
> >> > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > From: Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
> >> > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: It's too late for planet Earth
> >> > To: [email protected]
> >> > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 6:52 AM
>
> >> > I have a similar thought process. I often liken the macro of the human
> >> > race to the micro. When we are young, we break our toys, simply
> >> > pulling them apart. Some of us, as we get into our teen years, begin
> >> > disassembling small engines, and electronics, curious as to how they
> >> > work, attempting to reassemble them. A few of us go on to become
> >> > technicians of such things. As a civilization, we have done much the
> >> > same, randomly tearing things down as cavemen, becoming more precise
> >> > in our disassembly as an industrial nation, and hopefully, as an
> >> > advanced civilization of the future, we will become technicians,
> >> > reassembling the planet in a way which provides symbiotic sustenance
> >> > for all. I really don't see any reason that greenhouse skyscrapers
> >> > located in each metropolitan area couldn't provide local food sources
> >> > for the populace. This planet could reasonably sustain twice the
> >> > population, if we were managed effectively, and didn't piss in our own
> >> > bathwater.
>
> >> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Ian Pollard <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> 2009/2/26 archytas <[email protected]>
>
> >> >>> Our current space vehicles
> >> >>> remind me someone of primitive spawning in plants - like a group of
> >> >>> algae forming a tower to boost one of their number from the surf to
> >> >>> the jet stream.
>
> >> >> I think there's little point investing any money on manned space
> >> > flight. The
> >> >> cost is too high and we -- being a short-lived species -- are not
> >> > especially
> >> >> suited to travelling the enormous distances of our galaxy.
>
> >> >> Lovelock reckons certain countries (the UK, parts of Canada, New 
> >> >> Zealand,
> >> >> etc) will effectively become life rafts for the human population. These
> >> >> countries would be broken down into super-high density cities and areas 
> >> >> of
> >> >> intensive GM-farming (forget the current fixation about free-range
> >> > chickens,
> >> >> my hippy friends). The borders of these countries, sadly, would need to 
> >> >> be
> >> >> barricaded and policed to stop the unfortunates getting in.
>
> >> >> Ian
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