People take themselves so seriously nowadays. I was born under the Gemini star sky and who am I to question the position of the stars before I can even see further than, say, 20 cm?
On 23 Mrz., 02:51, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps found in both places...at the same time. > see:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ai-VvboPnA > > On Mar 22, 5:53 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I think that all of our answers can be found within ourselves. The > > answers, not in the stars...but in ourselves... > > > On Mar 22, 7:47 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I could have but you did, so chime in. At what point in my post would > > > you inject dharma? I'm thinking that you are referring to M's > > > actions. How about some substantive input on your part to elaborate > > > on the subject at hand. > > > > On Mar 22, 6:14 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You could have mentioned that karma means nothing without dharma, the > > > > right action. > > > > > On 22 Mrz., 23:48, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I remember your thread concerning Dr. Weiss and the correlation of > > > > > past, present and future life examination through hypnosis, and his > > > > > contention that each life was in simultaneous occurrence, with time at > > > > > some point, having no consequence. Can't say that I agreed with all > > > > > of it, but that was another topic altogether so I'll move on. Perhaps > > > > > we can revive that thread at some point in the future. > > > > > Karma issue has a high degree of relevance. I have a friend, M who > > > > > I've know for over 30 years. After her divorce she began to render aid > > > > > to homeless street people and subsequently suffered the reality that > > > > > she was going down hill the whole time. I suggested to M several > > > > > times that she might be intervening in someone's bad karma and as a > > > > > result she was going to have to go down with the ship. M's lack of > > > > > understanding and naivete in such matters allowed her to continue in > > > > > the fruitless rescue of society's dregs believing that she was doing > > > > > the right thing and that positive results would ensue. She has since > > > > > lost custody of her children for allowing them to be exposed to the > > > > > abhorrent and debased behavior of these people. Now that M's lost her > > > > > home and living a substandard life equivalent to her underlings, I > > > > > feel she has passed through the event horizon, never to return to > > > > > normalcy. It seems like I don't even know her anymore, in fact > > > > > haven't heard from her in a couple of years. Is it just coincidental > > > > > or is there a more powerful force at work adamant over the fact that M > > > > > is standing in the way of retributive karma? So in answer to your > > > > > question; how would one know? I would have to say; take a look at the > > > > > results, discern whether a situation is worthwhile, a hopeless cause > > > > > or a waste of time and energy, not to mention the financial fallout. > > > > > > On Mar 22, 12:18 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I agree Slip, belief can be a powerful filter for experience. I am > > > > > > wondering about intervening in a karmic reaping. How would one > > > > > > know? > > > > > > What if it is the exorcist's karma that compels him to become the > > > > > > exorcist? Often, events driven by karma are the result of karmic > > > > > > relationship. According to Dr. Brian Weiss, what often leads people > > > > > > to explore past life regression are the problems of difficult > > > > > > relationships, and the quest for answers about them. I, myself, > > > > > > explored past lives looking for answers about my problematic > > > > > > relationship with my youngest son. I will say that, given the broad > > > > > > view of the soul connection, the relationship spontaneously improved > > > > > > without any outward communication. I was impressed with that > > > > > > result. > > > > > > It also changed my perspective on many other aspects of life. > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 1:01 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I guess there would be some news report about the flying suitcases > > > > > > > which must have been witnessed by others, or was he the only > > > > > > > person on > > > > > > > the train? I have felt at times that certain incidences in my > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > were the result of a spiritual attack, to thwart my intent or > > > > > > > direction at the time. Not exactly flying suitcases but highly > > > > > > > traumatic to the point of instilling a sense of serious > > > > > > > apprehension > > > > > > > upon considerations towards involvement in certain activities. I > > > > > > > would have to be personally compelled and driven by personal need > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > take part in something that may incite an irruption. My beliefs > > > > > > > stem > > > > > > > from personal experience, not from literal translations of > > > > > > > historical > > > > > > > accounts or offerings from religious communities. Prior to those > > > > > > > experiences, I shared the understandable doubt of such things and > > > > > > > relegated them to simple fantasy and imagination. Through the > > > > > > > 60's a > > > > > > > new awareness began to take hold and in retrospect I saw that many > > > > > > > such occurrences took place even as far back as my single digit > > > > > > > age. > > > > > > > At this time in life I wonder if it is wise to intervene in a > > > > > > > situation that might be the result of someones karmic reaping. > > > > > > > People > > > > > > > think we can rectify every situation that has gone awry in the > > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > of others without consideration that we may be challenging a much > > > > > > > greater force. While still harboring specific reservations I > > > > > > > guess it > > > > > > > all comes down to ones beliefs Molly, as you say you think it is > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > true and others think it is movie magic. > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 10:33 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I knew a priest who claimed to be on a train, going to the > > > > > > > > exorcism > > > > > > > > that William Blatty's book was based on. As Father Bill tells > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > story (and I had several discussions with him), there were > > > > > > > > suitcases > > > > > > > > and other things flying on their own across the train at this > > > > > > > > priest > > > > > > > > before he ever got to the exorcism. Father Bill was a cool guy, > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > family man, a very well known and respected priest in the > > > > > > > > Chicago > > > > > > > > Archdioceses. I have known (and currently know one) Catholic > > > > > > > > Priests > > > > > > > > who were exorcists throughout my life. It is kept quite hush > > > > > > > > hush by > > > > > > > > the church but the men I know are bright and strong and very > > > > > > > > well put > > > > > > > > together. I guess you would have to be. I think it is true. > > > > > > > > But > > > > > > > > then again, I think it is all true - and perfect for the level > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > consciousness in operation. In the big picture, there is only > > > > > > > > Brahman. In microcosm, anything is possible. > > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 7:54 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I like William Peter Blatty's The Exorcist. Unlike the > > > > > > > > > movie, the > > > > > > > > > book never commits to supernatural forces. The telekinesis > > > > > > > > > part of > > > > > > > > > the story is a little freaky but a smart girl could have > > > > > > > > > figured out > > > > > > > > > how to fool a terrified mom. It's more about a priest's > > > > > > > > > doubt and a > > > > > > > > > neuritic mom then anything else. And fear of the unknown, of > > > > > > > > > course. > > > > > > > > > All in all, a quick, interesting read. > > > > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Lack of exhibition does not substantiate the claim. Evil > > > > > > > > > > does not > > > > > > > > > > imply that a newborn should immediately do a 360 headspin, > > > > > > > > > > hiss and > > > > > > > > > > spit blood out at you. This in no way indicates that evil > > > > > > > > > > does not > > > > > > > > > > exist within a person or that it may manifest at a later > > > > > > > > > > date and > > > > > > > > > > time, especially if there is intent, such as may be the > > > > > > > > > > case with > > > > > > > > > > little Tim Kretschmer and Thomas Sullivan Jr (link). > > > > > > > > > >http://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/11/nyregion/boy-kills-mother-and-himse... > > > > > > > > > > There are numerous other examples of course and whether or > > > > > > > > > > not they > > > > > > > > > > are attributed to evil is speculation without any means of > > > > > > > > > > establishing factual evidence. > > > > > > > > > > The argument of evil, or the evil argument, remains > > > > > > > > > > problematic in > > > > > > > > > > that we can only deduce from a set premise only to reach a > > > > > > > > > > fallible > > > > > > > > > > conclusion. We cannot prove or disprove the existence of > > > > > > > > > > evil but > > > > > > > > > > only present assertions laden with ambiguity and > > > > > > > > > > perplexities and > > > > > > > > > > there are no uniform opinions on the matter other than > > > > > > > > > > those of > > > > > > > > > > segmented groups within society that deem evil existence as > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > necessity to their function. Maybe we can simply eradicate > > > > > > > > > > evil > > > > > > > > > > entirely by ruling out its existence through euphemistic > > > > > > > > > > tactic and > > > > > > > > > > rid ourselves of it for good and the world can live in > > > > > > > > > > peace, and find > > > > > > > > > > closure, of course. lol :-) > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 7:04 pm, Chris Jenkins > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Because they exhibit zero evidence of such. They exhibit > > > > > > > > > >> only evidence > > > > > > > > > >> that they are hungry, tired, or uncomfortable, and when the > > > > > > > > > >> appropriate stimulus is applied, they become peaceful. > > > > > > > > > >> Have you ever > > > > > > > > > >> seen behaviour from an infant that you consider to be > > > > > > > > > >> truly mean > > > > > > > > > >> spirited that could not be more accurately attributed to > > > > > > > > > >> another more > > > > > > > > > >> common infantile behaviour? > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Slip Disc > > > > > > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > Infants aren't mean spirited.<<<CJ > > > > > > > > > > >> > How do you know this? > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Mar 21, 10:34 am, Chris > > ... > > Erfahren Sie mehr » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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