I rather like being brought up by my pretensions and am generally OK
with people who mean little harm.  At deeper levels I am coming to the
view that rational discussion is plagued by power problems and we need
better means to recognise these.  Ribbing may well  be part of that.

On 27 Mar, 14:15, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:
> To tell the truth Molly, I hardly understand what she is saying most
> of the time, so if she is meaning to offend, I'm not catching it.
>
> On Mar 27, 5:40 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > While you find it amusing, Neil, I find it confrontational and
> > disrespectful so usually ignore it.  She does have a way of staying on
> > the border, under the bridge, and not coming out guns blazing.  One
> > good sting and off she goes smiling.  I am surprised to see it openly
> > discussed, but am glad to see it is noticed by the moderators.
>
> > On Mar 27, 1:50 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I understand the bot bit, though my dreams of robotised women take a
> > > rather different form!  There are supposedly some very advanced text
> > > engines - indeed a friend of mine has turned into one and is making a
> > > partial living writing art criticism whilst unable to distinguish
> > > between an Old Master and a lump of Edam.  'Deep Maiden' makes me
> > > laugh, which is better than having women sniggering about me!  I guess
> > > we won't get to the truth until she utters '42' and asks for a
> > > substantial rebuild in order to find out the question.  Around the
> > > Iron Man camp-fire, you and I are well into a crate of Steinlager and
> > > Craig is crushing burned corn whilst clocking up some client fees on
> > > his mobile (he's representing a Muslim woman for unfair dismissal over
> > > insisting her husband and a Taliban sect accompany her to work in the
> > > Pentagon) and we have a note about domestic duties from Ian.  A couple
> > > of really fat guys who came in a Chieftan tank have caught a hippy
> > > somewhere in the distance and have just borrowed a rope.  Seeing this
> > > we have concealed our large, self-manufactured cigarette in Craig's
> > > wallet for later ...
>
> > > On 27 Mar, 04:17, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Actually, strangely, the opposite is true, Neil old boy. I had the
> > > > instinct to be stung, and yet I couldn't place my finger on the why.
> > > > The motivation was missing. At times, it almost seems like Gabs is
> > > > some advanced form of AI cycling off responses according to a sense of
> > > > programming I haven't quite figured out. So instead, I decided to
> > > > address the source and see if could understand what the line of
> > > > questioning was. If it's simple Puckery, then I'll wink and
> > > > laugh...well played indeed. It was prostitute that did it...a word so
> > > > disconnected from the depth of connectedness in my post that I had to
> > > > assume it was some sort of trolling. Gab's lack of an overt malicious
> > > > nature makes it difficult to actually take offense, although the
> > > > undeserved sense of persecution at times is a bit worrisome.
>
> > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:00 AM, archytas <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Socrates claimed to act like a gadfly Chris.  One lingers briefly on
> > > > > the hope that Gabbers might be easier on the eye than the greek-
> > > > > sandalled hemlock quaffer before realising sexism is crass and lookism
> > > > > a major fetish of history.  There are times to rise to the bait and
> > > > > others in which solace can only be gleaned by flying on a beetle to
> > > > > the moon, in tense consideration of the porpoise of the universe.  I
> > > > > suspect you have been stung mate, though as more than a three-time
> > > > > loser on the gently-vicious sex front, I fear I cannot give expert
> > > > > evidence.  Ointments and unctions may give relief to those Chris-
> > > > > crossed on the crucifix of censorship or spiked on the kebab.  Let's
> > > > > dream up an Iron Man hippy-cull and test the ultimate out of body
> > > > > ethical question of our age - whether it should be legal to take the
> > > > > stash off a dead hippy (Cartman for the defence) whilst doing a Flying
> > > > > Harrington stoned on that non-coffee corn burnings the Mormons use in
> > > > > conversion rights.  I'm telling you man, this is good stuff!
>
> > > > > On 26 Mar, 15:19, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> That I would do what again, ban you? I wasn't the one who banned you 
> > > > >> the first time, Donna, nor do I know the history behind it, although 
> > > > >> I might guess it had something to do with abstract posts of an 
> > > > >> inflammatory nature. In your history here, you've been known to 
> > > > >> inject emails which seemengly had nothing to do with the topic at 
> > > > >> hand, including one notable thread where you accused the Mind's Eye 
> > > > >> Icon of being racist because the eye was blue.
>
> > > > >> As opposed to simply dismissing you out of sorts, since you don't 
> > > > >> seem to actually display any sort of maliciousness, I'm simply 
> > > > >> trying to understand what it is you are trying to say. Is there a 
> > > > >> point to your posts, or are you the Robin Goodfellow of the Eye, 
> > > > >> determined to inject mischief where you see fit? I have seen 
> > > > >> thoughtful participation from you, articulate conversation on 
> > > > >> complex topics. I know that this isn't a language barrier issue. I 
> > > > >> don't really think you are trying to martyr yourself on the cross of 
> > > > >> "Chris is a horrid censor", which is a load of bollocks anyways. So, 
> > > > >> fess up, Gabs. Does it crack you up endlessly to constantly have us 
> > > > >> on so?
>
> > > > >> [ Attached Message ]From:gabbydott <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds 
> > > > >> Eye\"" <[email protected]>Date:Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:37:16 
> > > > >> -0700 (PDT)Local:Thurs 26 Mar 2009 10:37Subject:[Mind's Eye] Re: 
> > > > >> Speaking of Out of Body Experiences...
>
> > > > >> Tense mistake. The question always goes : what is the porpoise.
> > > > >> Now I would say that I found out that you would do it again.
>
> > > > >> On 26 Mrz., 00:03, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > >> > I would rather you explain the purpose behind making a baseless 
> > > > >> > and inflammatory post. Nothing in your statement carries a true 
> > > > >> > correlation to what I actually wrote...it bore only the most 
> > > > >> > surface resemblance to the topic, and as noted, used loaded 
> > > > >> > language of an insulting nature. If you're not trolling, what was 
> > > > >> > the purpose?
>
> > > > >> > [ Angehängte Nachricht ]Von:gabbydott 
> > > > >> > <[email protected]>In:"\"Minds Eye\"" 
> > > > >> > <[email protected]>Datum:Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:25:54 -0700 
> > > > >> > (PDT)Lokal:Mi 25 Mrz. 2009 23:25Betreff:[Mind's Eye] Re: Speaking 
> > > > >> > of Out of Body Experiences...
>
> > > > >> > No, I'm not. Do you want to ban me nevertheless - again?
>
> > > > >> > On 25 Mrz., 15:14, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> 
> > > > >> > wrote:
>
> > > > >> > > Gabby, that's a nice turn of phrase, but completely discounts 
> > > > >> > > everything I posted, and uses loaded language which seems 
> > > > >> > > intended to insult. Being the fan of Wittgenstein that you are, 
> > > > >> > > I've wondered if your recent bouts of cantankerousness (with Orn 
> > > > >> > > and Slip) were intended to spark ire, while your twinkling eyes 
> > > > >> > > watched with a giggle.
>
> > > > >> > > Are you trolling, Gabs?
>
> > > > >> > > [ Angehängte Nachricht ]Von:gabbydott 
> > > > >> > > <[email protected]>In:"\"Minds Eye\"" 
> > > > >> > > <[email protected]>Datum:Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:30:11 
> > > > >> > > -0700 (PDT)Lokal:Mi 25 Mrz. 2009 12:30Betreff:[Mind's Eye] Re: 
> > > > >> > > Speaking of Out of Body Experiences...
>
> > > > >> > > Speak about your own pains that make you a prostitute for 
> > > > >> > > delusional
> > > > >> > > substances instead of ideas, Chris. Kierke set his understanding
> > > > >> > > parameters to overstand, which is fair enough.
>
> > > > >> > > On 24 Mrz., 20:20, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> 
> > > > >> > > wrote:
>
> > > > >> > > > Ah, so you do enjoy a bit of novacaine when having molars 
> > > > >> > > > extracted
> > > > >> > > > then...and admit that you're only being pedantic and 
> > > > >> > > > pedagogical when
> > > > >> > > > making such broad condemnations across a vast portion of the
> > > > >> > > > population.
>
> > > > >> > > > In your defense, the "Mormons' Struggle" is part of your 
> > > > >> > > > ideology.
> > > > >> > > > Combined with the "Salt of the Earth" hard working farmers' 
> > > > >> > > > lifestyle,
> > > > >> > > > I would expect a hard edged outlook. However, even farmers 
> > > > >> > > > like a good
> > > > >> > > > pint of beer and a couple of Advil after plowing the north 40. 
> > > > >> > > > It's
> > > > >> > > > all about gradients.
>
> > > > >> > > > Winston Churchill turned to the attractive woman next to him 
> > > > >> > > > and
> > > > >> > > > asked, "Madam, would you be convinced to sleep with me for a 
> > > > >> > > > million
> > > > >> > > > pounds?"
>
> > > > >> > > > "A million pounds? Why, of course!" she replied.
>
> > > > >> > > > "Well then, how about ten pounds?" he asked.
>
> > > > >> > > > "Mr. Churchill! What kind of woman do you think I am?" she 
> > > > >> > > > responded angrily.
>
> > > > >> > > > "We've already established that," he replied. "Now we're 
> > > > >> > > > negotiating the price."
>
> > > > >> > > > When there are exceptions to the rule, then we have validated 
> > > > >> > > > the fact
> > > > >> > > > that the rule is not absolute, and what constitutes an 
> > > > >> > > > exception
> > > > >> > > > varies according to the perception of the person granting the
> > > > >> > > > exception. You may find it weak that my best friend, who has an
> > > > >> > > > advanced degenerative case of MS needs both Merinol and smoked
> > > > >> > > > Marijuana to ease the muscle spasticity and other symptoms to 
> > > > >> > > > be able
> > > > >> > > > to function as a normal human, but I assure you, his struggles 
> > > > >> > > > to
> > > > >> > > > continue functioning as a tax paying citizen and good father 
> > > > >> > > > to three
> > > > >> > > > children are as challenging some mornings as an Olympian 
> > > > >> > > > struggling to
> > > > >> > > > shave another 3/100ths of a second off their track time. You 
> > > > >> > > > mean no
> > > > >> > > > disrespect to him, you don't know him, and yet you flippantly 
> > > > >> > > > dismiss
> > > > >> > > > his pain and suffering as weakness, without ever having 
> > > > >> > > > witnessed or
> > > > >> > > > considered his life.
>
> > > > >> > > > You think that the pain is good for his soul; yet, what good 
> > > > >> > > > comes of
> > > > >> > > > his complete inability to walk or pick up his child? This is 
> > > > >> > > > what his
> > > > >> > > > life is like without marijuana. Is that good for his soul, to 
> > > > >> > > > be
> > > > >> > > > locked in a claw fisted position on the
>
> ...
>
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