Your a real cave man Don! How many women do you want to assimilate?
On Apr 2, 7:45 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Simply, there is only so much room on a life boat and then some but
>
> > sooner or later some must be left to drown or the whole boat will go
> > under.
>
> Nice metaphor. The trick is to inconspicuously paddle away while the
> immigrant lobby sputters and coughs. I'd prefer to push people out
> and club the ones trying to crawl back in but that's why I'm not a
> politician. No finesse. I'm willing to assimilate the women and
> children but the men have to go home or drown. It's survival
> instincts.
>
> dj
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I think the termination of immigration, at least until some semblance
> > of workability and viability is in focus, makes all the sense in the
> > world. The rampant influx of immigrants stifles the process and
> > stagnates the intention. Assimilation is a process that can't be
> > overrun by a bloated immigrant populous. I don't see why there
> > hasn't been some sort of qualifier for immigrants, especially as Orn
> > puts it, the religious fanatic types. It seems people just show up
> > at your door and you have to just let them in, I don't get it. There
> > must be some strict limitations put into place to prevent undesirable
> > immigrants from staying on board, I mean there must be some benefit to
> > discrimination. Are we becoming powerless over immigration right?
>
> > Simply, there is only so much room on a life boat and then some but
> > sooner or later some must be left to drown or the whole boat will go
> > under.
>
> > On Apr 1, 4:42 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I agree with Vam - though I'd say Islam is a religion pretending
> >> peace, something attractive until one realises one is amongst 'chosen
> >> people'. Muslims can be as generous as any other group and they are
> >> not alone in trying to force their manners down other's throats.
> >> France has many more Muslims than other EU countries and they are a
> >> small minority in the UK - yet this small minority is causing much
> >> trouble and fear. Multi-culturalism gets close to apartheid. We
> >> should also note that we dump these problems into areas already short
> >> of resources and should hardly be surprised when the reactions look
> >> racist - what would we be doing if the only houses available to us and
> >> our children were taken out of our resource pot or if our sleep was
> >> being disturbed by banging car doors at Mosque call? I suspect, on a
> >> religious basis, that if we had medieval Xtian preaching we'd be as
> >> disturbed by that as we are by some Islam - so it may be a mistake to
> >> think this is a religious problem.
> >> I''m now in favour of the EU preventing any further immigration and
> >> seeking to build a new welfare state based on work contributions (with
> >> exceptions) and the availability of work. We should set a target for
> >> assimilation (10 years) - by all of us - to new democratic standards
> >> in politics, work and society.
>
> >> On 1 Apr, 00:35, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > You know Don, I haven't been able to shake that piece on Muslims
> >> > pushing for government positions, mainly because I've always
> >> > understood a precept of "Separation of Church and State", however it
> >> > seems that is not really what is going on. In fact, I remember
> >> > several articles concerning the Bush comments about God wanted him to
> >> > be President. Obviously there really is Not any separation but more
> >> > so an inside opportunity to manipulate government policy. I remember
> >> > reading about hard core right wing legislative votes going against
> >> > environmental issues based on the "belief" that the world was going to
> >> > end soon anyway so why waste money on saving the earth. I can't stand
> >> > religious nonsense of that sort or any religious nonsense period. It
> >> > is as it has always been, behind every good war is a good religion.
>
> >> > On Mar 31, 8:45 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > Muslims are not a
>
> >> > > > popular scenario. that is for sure,
> >> > > > Allan
>
> >> > > Ah, but here in America we welcome them. Check out this gem from
> >> > > yesterday.
>
> >> > >http://www.e-thepeople.org/article/6404101/view
>
> >> > > It just keeps getting scarier. I've heard Obama want's the Gitmo
> >> > > terrorists released into the general population. I assume that is
> >> > > what will eventually happen if we try to give them Citizens rights and
> >> > > a trial by jury. We'll almost certainly have to cut them lose. There
> >> > > is already precedent for this.
>
> >> > > dj
>
> >> > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:52 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > I do agree there is a sever potential for trouble, and it lays
> >> > > > hidden, as
> >> > > > I do have a friend that did take the time to learn Arabic,, he is
> >> > > > still
> >> > > > learning it,, for his law practice.. and there is no easy way to
> >> > > > read it..
> >> > > > so how do you really know what is being said..
>
> >> > > > Though I do think it is one of the most beautiful languages form an
> >> > > > artistic
> >> > > > point of view ,, I don't trust what i can not read..
>
> >> > > > the other problem I have is what I have read makes very little
> >> > > > sense,, and
> >> > > > seems to be very distorted, and not integrating with in the existing
> >> > > > culture. being separate from society maintaining a their own
> >> > > > world. Today
> >> > > > to enter our country you have to speak dutch and it is not an easy
> >> > > > test.
> >> > > > Though speak a little dutch I am exempted from the law because of
> >> > > > my age
> >> > > > and the fact I have been here for years now.. but today anyone
> >> > > > entering the
> >> > > > Netherlands to stay must meet the language requirement. Muslims are
> >> > > > not a
> >> > > > popular scenario. that is for sure,
> >> > > > Allan
>
> >> > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Vamadevananda
> >> > > > <[email protected]>
> >> > > > wrote:
>
> >> > > >> No, SD, I believe there's something to worry about !
>
> >> > > >> Reason : Muslims do not keep their religion personal. They demand a
> >> > > >> separate Law for themselves. They make demand on others, for their
> >> > > >> beliefs and practices to be accomodated in the public domain. And,
> >> > > >> they are " missionaries," quite like the Church / Christians were /
> >> > > >> are. They demand that others make way, and accept their superior
> >> > > >> ways.
> >> > > >> Or else ...
>
> >> > > >> That's the worry.
>
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > (
> >> > > > )
> >> > > > I_D Allan
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