The Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy has a piece on affirmative action - highly inconclusive stuff, but laying out the ground. How do we accommodate those in fairness who practise religions that look after their own?
On 3 Apr, 09:03, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > It was always a principle of the Borg to assimilate only technology > with superior potential. I thus agree with the principle of your > intended irony Slip - why start with something so deficient as the > monstrous regiment? This message will self-destruct in 5 seconds ... > argh! (rolling pin) - too late! > > On 3 Apr, 04:36, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Your a real cave man Don! How many women do you want to assimilate? > > > On Apr 2, 7:45 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Simply, there is only so much room on a life boat and then some but > > > > > sooner or later some must be left to drown or the whole boat will go > > > > under. > > > > Nice metaphor. The trick is to inconspicuously paddle away while the > > > immigrant lobby sputters and coughs. I'd prefer to push people out > > > and club the ones trying to crawl back in but that's why I'm not a > > > politician. No finesse. I'm willing to assimilate the women and > > > children but the men have to go home or drown. It's survival > > > instincts. > > > > dj > > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I think the termination of immigration, at least until some semblance > > > > of workability and viability is in focus, makes all the sense in the > > > > world. The rampant influx of immigrants stifles the process and > > > > stagnates the intention. Assimilation is a process that can't be > > > > overrun by a bloated immigrant populous. I don't see why there > > > > hasn't been some sort of qualifier for immigrants, especially as Orn > > > > puts it, the religious fanatic types. It seems people just show up > > > > at your door and you have to just let them in, I don't get it. There > > > > must be some strict limitations put into place to prevent undesirable > > > > immigrants from staying on board, I mean there must be some benefit to > > > > discrimination. Are we becoming powerless over immigration right? > > > > > Simply, there is only so much room on a life boat and then some but > > > > sooner or later some must be left to drown or the whole boat will go > > > > under. > > > > > On Apr 1, 4:42 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I agree with Vam - though I'd say Islam is a religion pretending > > > >> peace, something attractive until one realises one is amongst 'chosen > > > >> people'. Muslims can be as generous as any other group and they are > > > >> not alone in trying to force their manners down other's throats. > > > >> France has many more Muslims than other EU countries and they are a > > > >> small minority in the UK - yet this small minority is causing much > > > >> trouble and fear. Multi-culturalism gets close to apartheid. We > > > >> should also note that we dump these problems into areas already short > > > >> of resources and should hardly be surprised when the reactions look > > > >> racist - what would we be doing if the only houses available to us and > > > >> our children were taken out of our resource pot or if our sleep was > > > >> being disturbed by banging car doors at Mosque call? I suspect, on a > > > >> religious basis, that if we had medieval Xtian preaching we'd be as > > > >> disturbed by that as we are by some Islam - so it may be a mistake to > > > >> think this is a religious problem. > > > >> I''m now in favour of the EU preventing any further immigration and > > > >> seeking to build a new welfare state based on work contributions (with > > > >> exceptions) and the availability of work. We should set a target for > > > >> assimilation (10 years) - by all of us - to new democratic standards > > > >> in politics, work and society. > > > > >> On 1 Apr, 00:35, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > You know Don, I haven't been able to shake that piece on Muslims > > > >> > pushing for government positions, mainly because I've always > > > >> > understood a precept of "Separation of Church and State", however it > > > >> > seems that is not really what is going on. In fact, I remember > > > >> > several articles concerning the Bush comments about God wanted him to > > > >> > be President. Obviously there really is Not any separation but more > > > >> > so an inside opportunity to manipulate government policy. I remember > > > >> > reading about hard core right wing legislative votes going against > > > >> > environmental issues based on the "belief" that the world was going > > > >> > to > > > >> > end soon anyway so why waste money on saving the earth. I can't > > > >> > stand > > > >> > religious nonsense of that sort or any religious nonsense period. It > > > >> > is as it has always been, behind every good war is a good religion. > > > > >> > On Mar 31, 8:45 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > Muslims are not a > > > > >> > > > popular scenario. that is for sure, > > > >> > > > Allan > > > > >> > > Ah, but here in America we welcome them. Check out this gem from > > > >> > > yesterday. > > > > >> > >http://www.e-thepeople.org/article/6404101/view > > > > >> > > It just keeps getting scarier. I've heard Obama want's the Gitmo > > > >> > > terrorists released into the general population. I assume that is > > > >> > > what will eventually happen if we try to give them Citizens rights > > > >> > > and > > > >> > > a trial by jury. We'll almost certainly have to cut them lose. > > > >> > > There > > > >> > > is already precedent for this. > > > > >> > > dj > > > > >> > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:52 AM, iam deheretic > > > >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > I do agree there is a sever potential for trouble, and it lays > > > >> > > > hidden, as > > > >> > > > I do have a friend that did take the time to learn Arabic,, he > > > >> > > > is still > > > >> > > > learning it,, for his law practice.. and there is no easy way > > > >> > > > to read it.. > > > >> > > > so how do you really know what is being said.. > > > > >> > > > Though I do think it is one of the most beautiful languages form > > > >> > > > an artistic > > > >> > > > point of view ,, I don't trust what i can not read.. > > > > >> > > > the other problem I have is what I have read makes very little > > > >> > > > sense,, and > > > >> > > > seems to be very distorted, and not integrating with in the > > > >> > > > existing > > > >> > > > culture. being separate from society maintaining a their own > > > >> > > > world. Today > > > >> > > > to enter our country you have to speak dutch and it is not an > > > >> > > > easy test. > > > >> > > > Though speak a little dutch I am exempted from the law because > > > >> > > > of my age > > > >> > > > and the fact I have been here for years now.. but today anyone > > > >> > > > entering the > > > >> > > > Netherlands to stay must meet the language requirement. Muslims > > > >> > > > are not a > > > >> > > > popular scenario. that is for sure, > > > >> > > > Allan > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Vamadevananda > > > >> > > > <[email protected]> > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > >> No, SD, I believe there's something to worry about ! > > > > >> > > >> Reason : Muslims do not keep their religion personal. They > > > >> > > >> demand a > > > >> > > >> separate Law for themselves. They make demand on others, for > > > >> > > >> their > > > >> > > >> beliefs and practices to be accomodated in the public domain. > > > >> > > >> And, > > > >> > > >> they are " missionaries," quite like the Church / Christians > > > >> > > >> were / > > > >> > > >> are. They demand that others make way, and accept their > > > >> > > >> superior ways. > > > >> > > >> Or else ... > > > > >> > > >> That's the worry. > > > > >> > > > -- > > > >> > > > ( > > > >> > > > ) > > > >> > > > I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
