It was always a principle of the Borg to assimilate only technology
with superior potential.  I thus agree with the principle of your
intended irony Slip - why start with something so deficient as the
monstrous regiment?  This message will self-destruct in 5 seconds ...
argh! (rolling pin) - too late!

On 3 Apr, 04:36, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Your a real cave man Don!  How many women do you want to assimilate?
>
> On Apr 2, 7:45 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Simply, there is only so much room on a life boat and then some but
>
> > > sooner or later some must be left to drown or the whole boat will go
> > > under.
>
> > Nice metaphor.  The trick is to inconspicuously paddle away while the
> > immigrant lobby sputters and coughs.  I'd prefer to push people out
> > and club the ones trying to crawl back in but that's why I'm not a
> > politician.  No finesse.  I'm willing to assimilate the women and
> > children but the men have to go home or drown.  It's survival
> > instincts.
>
> > dj
>
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I think the termination of immigration, at least until some semblance
> > > of workability and viability is in focus, makes all the sense in the
> > > world.  The rampant influx of immigrants stifles the process and
> > > stagnates the intention.  Assimilation is a process that can't be
> > > overrun by a bloated immigrant populous.   I don't see why there
> > > hasn't been some sort of qualifier for immigrants, especially as Orn
> > > puts it,  the religious fanatic types.  It seems people just show up
> > > at your door and you have to just let them in, I don't get it.   There
> > > must be some strict limitations put into place to prevent undesirable
> > > immigrants from staying on board, I mean there must be some benefit to
> > > discrimination.  Are we becoming powerless over immigration right?
>
> > > Simply, there is only so much room on a life boat and then some but
> > > sooner or later some must be left to drown or the whole boat will go
> > > under.
>
> > > On Apr 1, 4:42 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> I agree with Vam - though I'd say Islam is a religion pretending
> > >> peace, something attractive until one realises one is amongst 'chosen
> > >> people'. Muslims can be as generous as any other group and they are
> > >> not alone in trying to force their manners down other's throats.
> > >> France has many more Muslims than other EU countries and they are a
> > >> small minority in the UK - yet this small minority is causing much
> > >> trouble and fear.  Multi-culturalism gets close to apartheid.  We
> > >> should also note that we dump these problems into areas already short
> > >> of resources and should hardly be surprised when the reactions look
> > >> racist - what would we be doing if the only houses available to us and
> > >> our children were taken out of our resource pot or if our sleep was
> > >> being disturbed by banging car doors at Mosque call?  I suspect, on a
> > >> religious basis, that if we had medieval Xtian preaching we'd be as
> > >> disturbed by that as we are by some Islam - so it may be a mistake to
> > >> think this is a religious problem.
> > >> I''m now in favour of the EU preventing any further immigration and
> > >> seeking to build a new welfare state based on work contributions (with
> > >> exceptions) and the availability of work.  We should set a target for
> > >> assimilation (10 years) - by all of us - to new democratic standards
> > >> in politics, work and society.
>
> > >> On 1 Apr, 00:35, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > You know Don, I haven't been able to shake that piece on Muslims
> > >> > pushing for government positions, mainly because I've always
> > >> > understood a precept of "Separation of Church and State", however it
> > >> > seems that is not really what is going on.  In fact, I remember
> > >> > several articles concerning the Bush comments about God wanted him to
> > >> > be President.  Obviously there really is Not any separation but more
> > >> > so an inside opportunity to manipulate government policy.  I remember
> > >> > reading about hard core right wing legislative votes going against
> > >> > environmental issues based on the "belief" that the world was going to
> > >> > end soon anyway so why waste money on saving the earth.  I can't stand
> > >> > religious nonsense of that sort or any religious nonsense period.  It
> > >> > is as it has always been, behind every good war is a good religion.
>
> > >> > On Mar 31, 8:45 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > Muslims are not a
>
> > >> > > > popular scenario. that is for sure,
> > >> > > > Allan
>
> > >> > > Ah, but here in America we welcome them.  Check out this gem from 
> > >> > > yesterday.
>
> > >> > >http://www.e-thepeople.org/article/6404101/view
>
> > >> > > It just keeps getting scarier.  I've heard Obama want's the Gitmo
> > >> > > terrorists released into the general population.   I assume that is
> > >> > > what will eventually happen if we try to give them Citizens rights 
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > a trial by jury.  We'll almost certainly have to cut them lose.  
> > >> > > There
> > >> > > is already precedent for this.
>
> > >> > > dj
>
> > >> > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:52 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> 
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > I do agree   there is a sever potential for trouble, and it lays 
> > >> > > > hidden, as
> > >> > > > I do have a friend that did take the time to learn Arabic,, he is 
> > >> > > > still
> > >> > > > learning it,, for his law practice..  and there is no easy way to 
> > >> > > > read it..
> > >> > > > so how do you really know what is being said..
>
> > >> > > > Though I do think it is one of the most beautiful languages form 
> > >> > > > an artistic
> > >> > > > point of view  ,, I don't trust what i can not read..
>
> > >> > > > the other problem I have is what I have read makes very little 
> > >> > > > sense,, and
> > >> > > > seems to be very distorted,  and not integrating with in the 
> > >> > > > existing
> > >> > > > culture.   being separate from society maintaining a  their own 
> > >> > > > world. Today
> > >> > > > to enter our country you have to speak dutch and it is not an easy 
> > >> > > > test.
> > >> > > > Though  speak a little dutch I am exempted from the law because of 
> > >> > > > my age
> > >> > > > and the fact I have been here for years now.. but today anyone 
> > >> > > > entering the
> > >> > > > Netherlands to stay must meet the language requirement. Muslims 
> > >> > > > are not a
> > >> > > > popular scenario. that is for sure,
> > >> > > > Allan
>
> > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Vamadevananda 
> > >> > > > <[email protected]>
> > >> > > > wrote:
>
> > >> > > >> No, SD, I believe there's something to worry about !
>
> > >> > > >> Reason :  Muslims do not keep their religion personal. They 
> > >> > > >> demand a
> > >> > > >> separate Law for themselves. They make demand on others, for their
> > >> > > >> beliefs and practices to be accomodated in the public domain. And,
> > >> > > >> they are " missionaries," quite like the Church / Christians were 
> > >> > > >> /
> > >> > > >> are. They demand that others make way, and accept their superior 
> > >> > > >> ways.
> > >> > > >> Or else ...
>
> > >> > > >> That's the worry.
>
> > >> > > > --
> > >> > > > (
> > >> > > >  )
> > >> > > > I_D Allan
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