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On 10 Apr., 17:02, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > I heartily agree that our current systems make intervention > difficult. We can do better. But the systems are better than they > were two or three generations ago. It shouldn't stop us from making > the call and giving the child all the support we can. If we each > continue to act with integrity according to our moral compass, the > rest will follow. Often, I think, the change we are looking for is > not the change we see. That call might make things seem worse in the > short term. But if a child can see an adult advocating, that child > understands that it can be done, and may be on the way to advocating > for themselves. They are us. What do we wish for ourselves? > > On Apr 10, 8:48 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I couldn't agree more Molly. Yet anyone trying to intervene faces > > chronic problems with bureaucracy that has moved from 'jobsworth' to > > nasty behaviour towards complainants as a matter of routine. We still > > have the routine use of secrecy preventing problems reaching public > > scrutiny. The 'Baby P' scandal rolls on in the UK - today it has been > > revealed that police failed the kid because the detective handling the > > case moved on and thus there was no prosecution which would have saved > > his life 8 months before he died. Cops have been presenting > > themselves as 'heroes' until now. The relevant reports remain > > unpublished, but are being leaked. We simply cannot trust the people > > with authority to investigate. Your recommendations are, of course, > > sound. They hit up against a system that is already corrupt. I > > believe the debate and action needed is in respect of this problem. > > > On 10 Apr, 13:38, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yet even curiosity gets the better of some Vam, as perhaps in > > > curiosity killing the cat. One hesitates to use the tool metaphor in > > > speaking of sex - yet alas even curiosity may line the pathway to > > > depravity. I can't reveal full details of what has been happening > > > close to me over the last few years - but this includes the use of > > > daughters to attract young males to criminal activity through sex with > > > them by Fagin-like parents. > > > > On 10 Apr, 05:35, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > " But I can conceive of a much healthier environment where it would > > > > possibly be permissible to respond in kind." > > > > > You mean : You need it. I too. Let's do it. > > > > > Instead, I see in the child's need an opportunity to create a healthy > > > > perspective of the matter in him, his thought - world, his life, > > > > beyond his need of sex and definitely without the least need in me to > > > > benefit / satisfy myself from his need of sex. > > > > > Just an alternate view ! > > > > > On Apr 9, 11:49 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Perhaps it does matter. Boys and men tend to be more sexually > > > > > aggressive than girls and women, though in the adult range of that > > > > > aspect, more women are beginning to come out of the timidity closet, > > > > > which pleases me to no end. Or it did back when I was still able. > > > > > > Nor does a child acting out sexually necessarily indicate a sexual > > > > > violation or abuse has taken place. It may simply be a lack of love > > > > > in the home that causes that acting out -- though a lack of love can > > > > > certainly be considered abuse. Or it could also be a vivid > > > > > imagination. There are probably a host of reasons a child would act > > > > > out sexually, just as there are a host of reasons children act out in > > > > > many other ways. > > > > > > As to whether that acting out would justify a response, well, in > > > > > today's emotional and irrational mindset many have regarding the > > > > > issue, I'd have to say there would be no justified response because it > > > > > would do no more than to place the child in the emotional chains of > > > > > shame, guilt and despair. But I can conceive of a much healthier > > > > > environment where it would possibly be permissible to respond in > > > > > kind. It just doesn't exist at this time. > > > > > > On Apr 9, 11:03 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > boy or girl, does it matter? children who act out sexually do so > > > > > > because they have been violated in this way. But as a question of > > > > > > morality, would their approach justify any response to it?- Hide > > > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
