Look at his profile, thus the handyman will be explained.  Why not
love!!!  I don't loathe anyone.

On May 5, 6:06 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Love? Mr. Handyman?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzW1LEY125s
>
> On May 5, 4:46 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > You can't fix a twitch Tink.  I don't want to think NEGATIVELY, as you
> > say.  I am a very positive person.  But I don't have to prove
> > anything.  Far from a sheltered life, I grew up in Brooklyn, NY.  I've
> > seen everything.  Thus my callous ways. Fact is fact.  You can't
> > change people.  They have to want to change and do it themselves.
> > Soemtimes they are hit with a revelation, but it usually happens in
> > jail, after the fact.  I still love you Mr. Handyman.  :)  Stop
> > picking on me.
>
> > On May 5, 3:31 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I have never said to ignore anything. I have asked you to focus on
> > > something other than the negative.
> > > I have searched for just about twice your Life span my dear. I've been
> > > from the top to the bottom with eyes wide open. You have lived a
> > > sheltered Life and the closest you can come to understanding a sick
> > > mofo is to call them evil. I know how they work and I know that they
> > > have the same connection in their mind that we all do. That is the key
> > > to changing them.
>
> > > peace & love
>
> > > On May 5, 12:41 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I only stated the search because Tinker said we should ignore the
> > > > negative aspects on the collective mentality post.  How can we achieve
> > > > a collective mentality if we ignore such an important factor.
>
> > > > On May 4, 11:57 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > " A math problem can't be half-solved."
>
> > > > > Now that, though I perfectly understand the sense, Rosey, is
> > > > > debatable. Why can't the glass be perceived as half - full ?  The
> > > > > perception pre - exists ;  it just requires one perceiver to own it !
>
> > > > > I am saying that Tinker is well within his Right to Freedom To Search
> > > > > For The Key, wherever !
>
> > > > > I am only wary of his missionary zeal, the one which often makes
> > > > > people go mad with rage or disappointment ( are you with us or
> > > > > against ? why are you not on this ? ) because they cannot help
> > > > > becoming emotionally judgemental or distraught.
>
> > > > > I'm sure though, Tinker is better than that.
>
> > > > > On May 5, 8:09 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > My point in saying that men are evil was a generalization not 
> > > > > > towards
> > > > > > a specific gender, but towards the idea that as long as negative
> > > > > > aspects such as paranoia, jealousy and evil exist a collective
> > > > > > mentality will be difficult to attain.  We can't change the way
> > > > > > certain people think, but we can prosecute them for their 
> > > > > > wrongdoings
> > > > > > or at least try.  In no way is evil excusable, but the same goes for
> > > > > > in no way is evil avoidable.  We can offer the idea of kindness, we
> > > > > > can try to instill it, but ultimately the id exists.  Some may be 
> > > > > > able
> > > > > > to control their id and minimize it, while others will focus and
> > > > > > expand on it.  Can we control that?
>
> > > > > > A mother had two sons.  She raised each with the same care and
> > > > > > upbringing.  She also taught them unconditional love, respect,
> > > > > > spirituality and kindness.  However, one of the brothers raped and
> > > > > > murdered women.  Why did he turn out this way?  An idea similar to
> > > > > > what you call collective mentality was instilled into him, yet he
> > > > > > deviated away from it and condemned himself to a life evil.  What
> > > > > > happened?
>
> > > > > > If your quest is to find a key, you need to explore all 
> > > > > > neighborhoods,
> > > > > > you can't skip the slums and expect to find it.  You need to analyze
> > > > > > everything from all angles, even the hard ones.  A math problem 
> > > > > > can't
> > > > > > be half-solved.
>
> > > > > > On May 4, 10:35 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I can't help but remain focused on the introduction.  Rosey 
> > > > > > > declared
> > > > > > > that "men" are evil?  Is that "gender" specific or a 
> > > > > > > generalization of
> > > > > > > humanity?  I just can't see Rosey making such a statement.  Could 
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > provide me with a reference to such argument?  I guess I must have
> > > > > > > missed that one.
>
> > > > > > > On May 4, 4:58 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Evil.
> > > > > > > > I’ve argued with Rosey about saying men are evil. It’s too easy 
> > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > excuse to go kill somebody.
>
> > > > > > > > What I do think is Evil is a product of man, not some devious 
> > > > > > > > force or
> > > > > > > > that born in sin crap.
>
> > > > > > > > The actions of men, the ‘Way it is Now’ in Society allows for 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > creation of an entity of Evil. Oppressive government and 
> > > > > > > > corporate
> > > > > > > > greed are two examples of Evil that is simply the product of 
> > > > > > > > man.
> > > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people who would read that and say, 
> > > > > > > > “Yea,
> > > > > > > > I’m glad I live in the U.S.”; I hang my head and cry. 
> > > > > > > > Government is
> > > > > > > > the many headed beast of Revelations and the U.S. is the main 
> > > > > > > > brain.
>
> > > > > > > > I believe it safe to say that 90% of the people in the U.S. 
> > > > > > > > (probably
> > > > > > > > more in the rest of the world) are good humanitarian people.
> > > > > > > > Today, how many innocent people will die at the hands of U.S. 
> > > > > > > > forces,
> > > > > > > > hundreds, maybe a thousand or more? I know we only hear about 
> > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > that they are not able to keep hidden from the media.
> > > > > > > >  Although the people don’t condone the action they are the 
> > > > > > > > support of
> > > > > > > > the system. This is the manifestation of Evil as the product of 
> > > > > > > > man.
>
> > > > > > > > Why?, because we are going the ‘Wrong Way’.
> > > > > > > > To turn inward is wonderful and fine for the self improvement 
> > > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > > individual. That it allows escapism from reality, the results 
> > > > > > > > of our
> > > > > > > > supportive action, and allows for the Evil to be done in our 
> > > > > > > > name, is
> > > > > > > > Wrong.
> > > > > > > > “I’m improving myself; it’s all I can do; it’s not my fault.” No
> > > > > > > > fault, it is the ‘Way’ of Society that we need to change.
>
> > > > > > > > I believe the power we access by turning inward, to improve 
> > > > > > > > ourselves,
> > > > > > > > must be recognized in another way to improve the lot of mankind 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > stop our creating Evil.
> > > > > > > > We turn in to access our higher power, collective intelligence 
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > whichever of hundreds of different explanations we choose for 
> > > > > > > > the one
> > > > > > > > thing on Earth that all of mankind have in common.
> > > > > > > > Me Me Mine! It’s my personal spirit! It’s my Love! No, it’s 
> > > > > > > > Brahman!
> > > > > > > > Oh you fools, it’s the spirit of Jesus Christ! You mystical muff
> > > > > > > > heads, it’s nothing but a funny feeling caused by our 
> > > > > > > > subconscious.
>
> > > > > > > > It is a ‘thing’ in our mind. Until we develop a common 
> > > > > > > > recognition of
> > > > > > > > ‘it’, we will continue to spawn Evil.
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