French Cinema explores the concept extensively...have you seen The
Mother and the Whore?

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:46 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dear old Chris is still trying to track us back to bonk inspired
> lurve.  I'd rate this as a rather enjoyable disappointment most of the
> time.  The biologist in me wonders on how long certain pleasure
> receptors take to get bored, throwing us back into the market so our
> selfish genes spread further.  Some hornbills spend many years
> wandering about behind Mom and Pop in complete chastity until Pop dies
> and son namberwan takes over.  Bonobos use sex as a kind of social
> cement.  There's a great French comedy 'Marius et Jeanette' that says
> a lot of it for me - people somehow finding something rather sweet in
> adversity.  Most of do what most of us do in respect of relationships,
> so I suspect we make up fictions about love to differentiate our
> conformity, much as we wear clothes and engage in the same cycle of
> fashions over and over again.
>
> On 6 May, 08:04, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I like NY because you can be invisible though Chicago was my training
>> school in this art. Turns out flyover country is just as heartless.
>>
>> On May 5, 10:45 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > But we do have tender hearts
>> > underneath don't we? <<Rosey
>>
>> > A medal? Not at all, but perhaps a plaque to go along with the tartar.
>> > lol
>>
>> > Exclusivity.............I did not say that you "lacked" but only that
>> > you were not exclusive, meaning that there are many others who share
>> > your experience. You were the one who brought up Brooklyn as if it
>> > were a first experience. I've seen much death and horrendous activity
>> > prior to my 10th birthday so I can only imagine what you have seen.
>>
>> > I find that people, in general, perceive NY in a twisted view, most
>> > never have even visited, let alone live there, but still offer some
>> > jaundiced perception. Compared to many other cities that I have
>> > visited and in which I have lived, NY is a place that is more loving
>> > than most can possibly comprehend. Surely every city has its less
>> > than desirable citizens. It really comes down to the company you
>> > keep!
>> > Long Island still has its charm, retained by those who have the
>> > money. I left in the late 70's but usually visit every year during
>> > the summer and occasionally in winter, not my favorite time of the
>> > year but there is something about the snow covered pines that calls to
>> > the heart, as long as you don't have to scrap it off your windshield
>> > and drive in it. I also have a love/hate relationship with NY and
>> > have fears that someday the encroachment by city dwellers will one day
>> > render the east end as a useless wasteland, as they have done with the
>> > inner cities. Talk about natural love, is there something to examine
>> > concerning natural hate? Is there a natural hate?
>>
>> > I've reached the end of my daily endurance and must sign off, manana
>> > amiga!
>>
>> > On May 5, 9:33 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > Perhaps I should give you a medal for having one up on me. Bowing
>> > > gracefully to the master of whereabouts in NY. You did say that I
>> > > lack in exlusivity, oh worthy one. You're lucky, you got to
>> > > experience more piss infested, graffitti smitten, agonizingly dreadful
>> > > parking hunts, deathdefying train rides, homeless flashers, gang
>> > > member wannabe's, sidewalks wreaking eau' de la garbage, drunks at
>> > > every corner New York City. Did I miss anything? Oh yes, the most
>> > > obnoxiously rude people in the country. But we do have tender hearts
>> > > underneath don't we?
>>
>> > > However, I am honored that you find my posts interesting. Possible
>> > > encouragement for more participation from my end. But I must say that
>> > > I find all of your posts intriguing, provoking, and overall
>> > > entertaining.
>>
>> > > I no longer live in NY, we ran the neighborhood as kids. I have a
>> > > love/hate relationship with NY. I don't think I can ever live there
>> > > again, but I do love to visit. I make sure that we bother my mother
>> > > at least once a year. You can't get away from Gino's Italian Ices and
>> > > the ever so greasy, best pizza in the US. As far as the grafitti is
>> > > concerned, NY'ers being the smart and savvy bunch that they are, use
>> > > graffitti as a good memory tactic, you know just in case they forget
>> > > their name or Nom de Plume. It comes in handy being on every wall,
>> > > bus and train. Nothing like Rosey emphasized in bubble letters all
>> > > over the place. That's passion inspired art, for thy self, created
>> > > and reveled by LOVE. Had to keep the thread on topic.
>>
>> > > Fuggeaboudit.
>>
>> > > On May 5, 8:14 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Which end of the barrel? lol That's funny! I see you also have a
>> > > > humorous side!
>>
>> > > > You are sharp Rosey, but I have one up on you, that being that I spent
>> > > > the first 10 years of my life in various parts of Brooklyn, and 10
>> > > > years after in various locations in Queens Borough, H.S and College in
>> > > > NYC, on to Long Island, still having a home on the east end. I have
>> > > > hundreds of friends and family in all areas and so have up to the
>> > > > minute knowledge. Perhaps you are living in one of my old pads (now
>> > > > called cribs) lol. I live in the Southwest because I don't have to
>> > > > shovel heat. You are brash and daring but far from exclusive, still I
>> > > > love you, handywoman. Your posts are provocative and stimulating with
>> > > > the ball always landing in the court of Minds Eye. This is good, as
>> > > > it provides stimulus for the dead heads to finally open their minds
>> > > > and address new issues, which of course you will continue to provide.
>>
>> > > > Peace, Love and Joy!
>>
>> > > > PS: So when are you going to do something about all the graffiti in
>> > > > NY? I was very upset about the desecration on my last visit.
>>
>> > > > On May 5, 5:56 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > You do Slip??? Which end of the barrel?
>>
>> > > > > Tink, that hardly qualifies as art. Try again.
>>
>> > > > > On May 5, 6:41 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > I hear cooing!
>>
>> > > > > > On May 5, 5:28 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > Is that like when a young man about town comes up with a killer 
>> > > > > > > line
>> > > > > > > to bring in a lady he's after?
>> > > > > > > Pick your play any day :-)
>>
>> > > > > > > I like 'higher power', rather than something above us, the best 
>> > > > > > > 'of'
>> > > > > > > us.
>>
>> > > > > > > peace & Love
>>
>> > > > > > > On May 5, 5:54 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > Sometimes a revelation can happen when focused on a deep 
>> > > > > > > > intent love
>> > > > > > > > for someone. That's inspiration, passion and wholehearted 
>> > > > > > > > loving.
>> > > > > > > > Now I'm picking on you. :P
>>
>> > > > > > > > Of course the ability comes from a higher authority or so I 
>> > > > > > > > believe.
>>
>> > > > > > > > On May 5, 2:55 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > My dear young lady, what explains any revelation?
>> > > > > > > > > Although God usually gets the credit, I'd say it's the 
>> > > > > > > > > collective
>> > > > > > > > > intelligence.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>>
>> > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:37 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > What about when the "explosion of art" is provoked simply 
>> > > > > > > > > > due to
>> > > > > > > > > > thinking about someone, what explains that revelation.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 7:00 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > I would think the 'exploding in the arts' would be 
>> > > > > > > > > > > better classified
>> > > > > > > > > > > as insight, inspiration or revelation rather than Love.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 6:28 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. It explodes in the arts. Have done the whole 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > trip- painting,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > music, needlearts, poetry, gardening, cooking, 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > diplomas. It still
>> > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't cure a lost heart. I am now a hermitess living 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > in a grand
>> > > > > > > > > > > > house. My children are scattered and I was a good 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > mother to them.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe that is Love.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 5:04 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Love is beauty and pain defined. But in order to 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > experience the pain
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > you must see its beauty. Which often happens 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpectedly. I wish I
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > wasn't one of those people that think with their 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > heart. What is the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > value of brilliance when the actions of your heart 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > blind you from
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > using it? When I think of love, it's a deep, deep, 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > longing for
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > passion. Perhaps a flight without a plane. Or a swim 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > without water.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe even a delicacy tasted without swallowing. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's there but your
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > wary from it, worried about losing it, careful but 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > not capable of
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > determining whether you keep it or not, as love does 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > change. It gives
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > one the ability to things they would never expect.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > For example: I was able to play a tune on the piano, 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > yet I don't play
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > the piano. No, not expertly, I would post a link to 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > it but would be
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > worried about getting critiqued by experts. I am no 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > expert and don't
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > play the piano, never have, we bought a keyboard 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > about two months ago,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > yet I managed a whole heart felt tune, I closed my 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > eyes and let my
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > fingers work their own magic. Do you think love 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > gives one
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > abilities?
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 5:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am one of you- though disappointed and resigned. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I look back over my
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > life as a grief of love. Take my heart but spare 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me my money. The last
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time I heard "jaded" was from my highschool 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sweetheart who I dated for
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a year after he divorced from a 30 year marriage. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was still a jerk
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and died soon after I left him. Stuff happens.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 3:54 pm, Chris Jenkins 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm...I don't know, from what I hear, age is no 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > barrier to love nor lust. ;)
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad to have you aboard. Strong opening salvo, 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though! No soft spot at
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all for us romantics?
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM, rigsy03 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for Monday's laugh! One is allowed. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two would be
>>
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