But that's what I mean! Limits of desire ... peaks of fulfillment ...
bare depths - that's Paramount Pictures! Bingo! :-)

On 7 Mai, 14:31, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> *laughing* What exactly are you responding to, Gabs? Your tangents are 
> entertaining, but near impossible to respond to given their near complete 
> disconnect with anything that's actually been posted. Has begging been on 
> your mind, or is it American ideals that has you flamed up?
>
> For the benefit of your understanding, since I doubt anyone else had a hard 
> time with it, I was speaking of exploring the limits of desire...begging 
> doesn't factor into that at all. If you have to beg for intimacy, the 
> relationship has far deeper issues. Given that I'm speaking of reaching the 
> peaks of fulfillment, and you're focused on the bare depths of barely 
> togetherness, I don't think you're following along...your translator license 
> has been revoked! It's ok though...ich liebe dich anyways...
>
>
>
> [ Angehängte Nachricht ]Von:gabbydott <[email protected]>In:"\"Minds Eye\"" 
> <[email protected]>Datum:Thu, 7 May 2009 04:54:02 -0700 
> (PDT)Lokal:Do 7 Mai 2009 13:54Betreff:[Mind's Eye] Re: What is the nature of 
> Love?
>
> I thought you had travelled the world, Chris. And what did you do
> there? Went to the local movie theatres? Americans and how they live
> their belief in ideals. *sigh*
>
> OK, let me translate "to please others" for you.  In international
> terms it means "begging" and is strictly unerotic.
>
> On 7 Mai, 06:45, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In classical psychology, it's the Madonna-Whore complex. In modern
> > culture, Ludacris calls out for "a Lady in the streets but a freak in
> > the bed!" The clash of puritanical public values with animalistic
> > private sexual desires creates a conflict that men (and less often
> > women) who are not honest with themselves and/or their partners often
> > express extra-relationally. In the ideal Eros relationship (ever
> > IMHO), honest communication and a desire to please the other allows
> > for mutual open exploration of the poles of desire, negating the
> > desire to engage in such dalliances. Despite a variety of cultural
> > relational phenotypes to choose from, I believe monogamy to be the
> > Eros ideal.
>
> > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:06 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Somewhat over-long as I remember Chris.  An old French mate of mine
> > > kept two mistresses - one who treated him like a mother.  He was
> > > somewhat surprised that I didn't approve, even suspecting I was in
> > > love with his wife because of this.  Sadly, I was only in love with
> > > her cooking and brilliant sense of humour.  He was a very gentle soul,
> > > except when it came to arresting blaggers known to use violence and
> > > intimidation on women.
>
> 

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