There are two observations I wish to contribute, SD, if I may. You are right about one belief vs another, and that too is a belief ! And I do not say this tongue in cheek.
But a belief isn't " just " a belief. The ' responsibility ' of holding the belief is immediately upon us. So, if I believe the rock is spiritual energy, it becomes encumbent that I ' see ' the spiritual energy the rock is and ' know ' the truth value of my belief. If I do happen to know that my belief is true, then I also know that the contrary belief ( the rock is NOT spiritual energy ) is untrue, regardless of how many people are holding that contrary belief. Therefore, equating one belief to another, forgetting how beliefs are ' rooted ' in individuals, seems facile. Secondly, without the " Why," how does one determine what change to effect. Which leads to whims. However, I do see the importance of action at whatever that is before us, even if what is before us is not the " ultimate " we might be looking for. On May 12, 4:05 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Content is irrelevant, probability is equal in regard to the > suppositional base of all religious beliefs. Without empirical > evidence to establish validity of one belief over another the > probability remains equal. Perhaps we can edit out 'ultimate truth' > which seems to be the catalyst for the focus on belief content. > So I can rephrase in saying "the probability of one belief being valid > is equal to that of any other belief". > > You think you are going to dissect commentary and take thoughts out of > context in order to challenge them? > You cut off "regardless of their existence" which was a reference to > "beliefs". > Nevertheless if you must. > Summarizing suffering into a cause and effect aspect Is another belief > Not a fact. There is not one religion, religious belief, spiritual > movement, revered guru or any other "secret" that has alleviated > suffering. So to believe that suffering is a product of a cause and > effect event is essentially "another belief". Maybe I believe that > suffering is the result of humanity's failure to achieve a collective > mentality, simply another belief. It isn't even a non sequitor > consideration as there is nothing that if following but each belief > stands individually. Put the microscope away! > > You don't see how I can believe that the criteria for validity is > simply belief. Well that is not accurate because I don't believe the > criteria for validity is simply belief and don't know why you gathered > that from my statement, which is........"I just don't see that any > belief is any more valid that any other belief, including my own." > This is simple truth. You believe rocks have spiritual energy and I > believe rocks contain good luck and gabby believes rocks make good > paper weights, so what makes your belief more valid? > > I say most problems have to to do with unhappiness because that is > simple observation Justin, greedy people are unhappy with what they > have and so need more, Madoff had millions but obviously he was > unhappy with it. People that are unhappy with their sex life may > resort to any deviation to fulfill that void in their happiness > pocket. People that are unhappy with their finances may rob a store > or these days kill their family and then themselves. Now you should > get out your magnifying glass and look for the unhappiness at the base > of problems. > > When I say "bypassing the Why" I purpose to address the here and now, > the immediate. Why waste time wondering about the why of it when we > can use that time to effect change. If we could bypass the why we > could facilitate immediate change and the in reflection address the > why. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
