e, I think that the handle that Francis chose to use in this group reflects a very real sense of humility. He speaks to us as Francis the man - not a god or a saint, but fully human. As you get to know him, you will find his responses compassionate and real. His insight into tinkers responses here should not be dismissed lightly. It takes two hands to clap, and tinker has voiced very strongly that he is here to enlighten us. He may, indeed, have some insights. But if he not open to the insights of Francis or anyone else here, he will be missing out on rare and wonderful opportunities for self reflection and growth. If he thinks that he has grown all he can, and that "others" are here for him to enlighten, I would say he has a long way to go. This is the message he conveys. This is what Francis, in his compassion, is trying to tell tinker - that there is an arrogance to this position that screams unenlightened.
Tinker, if you mean something different than this, let us know. You have an interesting perspective. Everyone here does. One is not better or more enlightened than the other. Justin has incredibly deep insights and enjoys the structure of philosophical discourse. Pat will string it all out for us like a true physicist whose observations change the experiment. Francis has a wealth of understanding in theology and psychology, and the heart of a poet with a command of the language to do it justice. I could go on and on but will end suggesting that you stay open to what is offered here. On May 15, 6:46 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > fran! u seem a bit bothered in your last couple of posts...maybe a > vacation in the arctic would help u chill out a bit. i personally > havent read a book of significance in about 40 years because i also > found what i was looking for...this does not mean that one should not > put their views out there does it? maybe tink does what to spread his > light around...anything wrong with that? u can take what u want from > it, or not, no? speaking of conceited, at least he doesnt call himself > 'tinktheman' ;-^) > > On May 15, 4:57 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 15 Mai, 02:43, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I don't intend to say that the great works of a lot of people are not > > > great. I don't need to study anymore, I have found that which I was > > > seeking and am trying to go forward with it. > > > This attitude makes discussion with you difficult, Tinker. If you are > > convinced you have found the Philosopher's Stone, then why do you > > enter into discourse with us here? Do you see any possibility of > > dialectical development in discussion with others? Is there a > > possibility that your views will develop and even change under the > > influence of the insights of others? If so, then I would see your > > dismissal of the need to study what others have written about many > > topics to be somewhat short-sighted. If not, then I have to conclude > > that your only purpose here is to enlighten those of us who haven't > > reached your elevated level of satori, or to indulge in mutual back- > > scratching with others who have achieved this exalted position. > > > Such posts remind me of Lucy van Pelt, in Schulz's "Peanuts", > > following the motto, "I used to be conceited, but now I'm perfect." > > > peace & Love > > > Francis --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
