Molly, I am wide open to everything presented on this forum. I read (to understand) every word posted. I don't use the "rare and wonderful opportunities for self reflection" as a means of escape. I apologize for being so arrogant as to stand fast on knowledge that I have gained and tested over and over again from different point of views to know the truth. Everything that I know has ground in the great teachings. But it's a bit here and a piece there that all come together to form a 'new knowledge'. You are the one who is not open to insight. You have the most magnificent construction of collected dogmas that I've ever seen. I don't think there is a bit of it that you have developed through your own insight. There is no need for you to "go on", I see the great collection of intelligence on this forum, that's why I'm here. You keep trying to pin some kind of ignorance on me. I know what you know, and you won't even talk about what I know.
Why do you come down the page to defend Fran and not respond to me above? peace & Love On May 15, 7:38 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > e, I think that the handle that Francis chose to use in this group > reflects a very real sense of humility. He speaks to us as Francis > the man - not a god or a saint, but fully human. As you get to know > him, you will find his responses compassionate and real. His insight > into tinkers responses here should not be dismissed lightly. It takes > two hands to clap, and tinker has voiced very strongly that he is here > to enlighten us. He may, indeed, have some insights. But if he not > open to the insights of Francis or anyone else here, he will be > missing out on rare and wonderful opportunities for self reflection > and growth. If he thinks that he has grown all he can, and that > "others" are here for him to enlighten, I would say he has a long way > to go. This is the message he conveys. This is what Francis, in his > compassion, is trying to tell tinker - that there is an arrogance to > this position that screams unenlightened. > > Tinker, if you mean something different than this, let us know. You > have an interesting perspective. Everyone here does. One is not > better or more enlightened than the other. Justin has incredibly deep > insights and enjoys the structure of philosophical discourse. Pat > will string it all out for us like a true physicist whose observations > change the experiment. Francis has a wealth of understanding in > theology and psychology, and the heart of a poet with a command of the > language to do it justice. I could go on and on but will end > suggesting that you stay open to what is offered here. > > On May 15, 6:46 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > fran! u seem a bit bothered in your last couple of posts...maybe a > > vacation in the arctic would help u chill out a bit. i personally > > havent read a book of significance in about 40 years because i also > > found what i was looking for...this does not mean that one should not > > put their views out there does it? maybe tink does what to spread his > > light around...anything wrong with that? u can take what u want from > > it, or not, no? speaking of conceited, at least he doesnt call himself > > 'tinktheman' ;-^) > > > On May 15, 4:57 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 15 Mai, 02:43, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't intend to say that the great works of a lot of people are not > > > > great. I don't need to study anymore, I have found that which I was > > > > seeking and am trying to go forward with it. > > > > This attitude makes discussion with you difficult, Tinker. If you are > > > convinced you have found the Philosopher's Stone, then why do you > > > enter into discourse with us here? Do you see any possibility of > > > dialectical development in discussion with others? Is there a > > > possibility that your views will develop and even change under the > > > influence of the insights of others? If so, then I would see your > > > dismissal of the need to study what others have written about many > > > topics to be somewhat short-sighted. If not, then I have to conclude > > > that your only purpose here is to enlighten those of us who haven't > > > reached your elevated level of satori, or to indulge in mutual back- > > > scratching with others who have achieved this exalted position. > > > > Such posts remind me of Lucy van Pelt, in Schulz's "Peanuts", > > > following the motto, "I used to be conceited, but now I'm perfect." > > > > peace & Love > > > > Francis --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
