It has been suggested here that there is no view more enlightened than another. With this, I disagree. Yes, people know more about different aspects of their psyches and thus can present a different topic where they do shine...yet, in the big picture...there are jumps in the path of enlightenment.
On May 15, 7:52 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > e-, that is one reason I stopped posting and reading AvC...being > philippic is, well, just that. Nothing else. > > On May 15, 7:06 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I know what you mean, there does seem to be enough antagonism about. > > But knowing Francis, I read his post as more of a challenge, and > > knowing that he is respectful of everyone, could see the respect in > > it. > > > On May 15, 9:02 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > i'll bow to your knowledge of the man, just seemed a bit edgy. of > > > course, i am not above making these types of statements myself...i > > > guess im just too saturated with the antagonism that goes on in AvC... > > > > On May 15, 7:38 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > e, I think that the handle that Francis chose to use in this group > > > > reflects a very real sense of humility. He speaks to us as Francis > > > > the man - not a god or a saint, but fully human. As you get to know > > > > him, you will find his responses compassionate and real. His insight > > > > into tinkers responses here should not be dismissed lightly. It takes > > > > two hands to clap, and tinker has voiced very strongly that he is here > > > > to enlighten us. He may, indeed, have some insights. But if he not > > > > open to the insights of Francis or anyone else here, he will be > > > > missing out on rare and wonderful opportunities for self reflection > > > > and growth. If he thinks that he has grown all he can, and that > > > > "others" are here for him to enlighten, I would say he has a long way > > > > to go. This is the message he conveys. This is what Francis, in his > > > > compassion, is trying to tell tinker - that there is an arrogance to > > > > this position that screams unenlightened. > > > > > Tinker, if you mean something different than this, let us know. You > > > > have an interesting perspective. Everyone here does. One is not > > > > better or more enlightened than the other. Justin has incredibly deep > > > > insights and enjoys the structure of philosophical discourse. Pat > > > > will string it all out for us like a true physicist whose observations > > > > change the experiment. Francis has a wealth of understanding in > > > > theology and psychology, and the heart of a poet with a command of the > > > > language to do it justice. I could go on and on but will end > > > > suggesting that you stay open to what is offered here. > > > > > On May 15, 6:46 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > fran! u seem a bit bothered in your last couple of posts...maybe a > > > > > vacation in the arctic would help u chill out a bit. i personally > > > > > havent read a book of significance in about 40 years because i also > > > > > found what i was looking for...this does not mean that one should not > > > > > put their views out there does it? maybe tink does what to spread his > > > > > light around...anything wrong with that? u can take what u want from > > > > > it, or not, no? speaking of conceited, at least he doesnt call himself > > > > > 'tinktheman' ;-^) > > > > > > On May 15, 4:57 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 15 Mai, 02:43, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't intend to say that the great works of a lot of people are > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > great. I don't need to study anymore, I have found that which I > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > seeking and am trying to go forward with it. > > > > > > > This attitude makes discussion with you difficult, Tinker. If you > > > > > > are > > > > > > convinced you have found the Philosopher's Stone, then why do you > > > > > > enter into discourse with us here? Do you see any possibility of > > > > > > dialectical development in discussion with others? Is there a > > > > > > possibility that your views will develop and even change under the > > > > > > influence of the insights of others? If so, then I would see your > > > > > > dismissal of the need to study what others have written about many > > > > > > topics to be somewhat short-sighted. If not, then I have to conclude > > > > > > that your only purpose here is to enlighten those of us who haven't > > > > > > reached your elevated level of satori, or to indulge in mutual back- > > > > > > scratching with others who have achieved this exalted position. > > > > > > > Such posts remind me of Lucy van Pelt, in Schulz's "Peanuts", > > > > > > following the motto, "I used to be conceited, but now I'm perfect." > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > Francis- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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