I remember when a group of us, some young and bright eyed, some seasoned
veterans of corporate wars, formed up under a mantra of open-ness in corporate
technology and communication called the Cluetrain Manifesto. It was a naive
movement aimed at shaping corporate interactions with the consumer market,
controlling capitalism, by controlling the online communication with and about
each corporate entity. Now, ten years later, the corporations have won again,
through a combination of learning new media, and homing their control of it,
and litigating against all which they couldn't. In the end, we are left with
collaborative filtering, and other wonders of high technology hybrids of
individualistic marketing and controlled groupthink. The data is everything,
and everything you do online is tracked by two dozen marketing corporations
through the use of cookies and other spyware, which are capable of building
complex marketing profiles for legal marketing purposes. That data, in turn, is
available to any government entity in the world who cares to ask for it. As
someone who performs data analaysis for a living, I can assure anyone
intwerested that the most mundane of data can be used to create an incredibly
complex set of trends about you, your beliefs, your behaviours, your friends,
and every aspect of your daily life. Read Bruce Schneier's blog, google
companies like ChoicePoint and DoubleClick,and you start to get a better
understanding. The only thing missing is the TV in the room with the face on
it. Big Brother is already here.
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"... But if you have nothing to hide, so what? ..." - MB
This mantra is rife with naive assumptions and is all too common. The
1984 issue has never been about what one must/wishes to, hide. It is
about how what one (or many)...in position(s) of power use what they
know and/or can gather.
The onus is on us all to keep such data bases as empty as possible.
Even those of us in power now because there will be a time when that
isn't the case either.
I hope never to hear this vapid phrase ever again.
On May 17, 4:38 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think there is probably considerable intelligence gathering on
> private citizens and has been since Hoover. But if you have nothing
> to hide, so what? The age of ethics and transparency is upon us.
>
> On May 17, 7:28 am, nupur rana <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey! wat i meant was... our Govt. is hardly the ' Big Brother types... thats
> > wat i meant!!!
>
> > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > keep studying
>
> > > On May 17, 7:04 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I thought the big Brother was confined to the US.......
>
> > > > On May 16, 8:44 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hey Kid ;
>
> > > > > "that would suck dude... and we wont
> > > > > be abl to talk trash freely... now anonymity gives us freedom...know
> > > > > wat i mean..;-)"
>
> > > > > I hate to be the one to burst your bubble kid,, there is no such thing
> > > as
> > > > > anonymity on the internet, Big brother always knows when he so desires
> > > the
> > > > > information.. movie hype just makes for a good story.. Like cell
> > > phones
> > > > > they already know where you are even before they pick it up..
> > > > > have fun.. remember big brother really is watching..
> > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:11 PM, pol.science kid <
> > > [email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > if such a thing were invented we'd have to make ourselves
> > > > > > presentable
> > > > > > before sitting on the computer.... that would suck dude... and we
> > > wont
> > > > > > be abl to talk trash freely... now anonymity gives us freedom...know
> > > > > > wat i mean..;-)
>
> > > > > > On May 15, 7:35 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > somebody should invent a group or chat room where there is a
> > > > > > > window
> > > on
> > > > > > > the side of the page showing the persons face beside their post in
> > > > > > > real time! well, maybe not ;-^)
>
> > > > > > > On May 15, 10:20 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Indeed, interpreting the expression completes the communication
> > > loop,
> > > > > > > > and is also fraught with complexity. So often, what is
> > > > > > > > expressed
> > > is
> > > > > > > > misinterpreted. Here in the web space, we do not have the body
> > > > > > > > language cues to help us along in interpreting communication. I
> > > > > > > > haven't decided if that is good or bad. I suppose it could be
> > > either,
> > > > > > > > depending on the circumstance. We are forced to leave behind
> > > > > > > > all
> > > of
> > > > > > > > our biases to physical appearance here, along with the reactions
> > > of
> > > > > > > > our ego to certain physical expressions. That could be a good
> > > thing.
>
> > > > > > > > Nonetheless, we pick up and put down our masks, even when using
> > > words
> > > > > > > > in this space. And even when we put down our mask, it might be
> > > > > > > > interpreted as wearing one by someone who has had a bad
> > > experience
> > > > > > > > with a particular type of person or particular phraseology.
>
> > > > > > > > I wholeheartedly agree with you about the nature of expression
> > > through
> > > > > > > > our eyes. There seems to be the possibility of a pure
> > > > > > > > connection
> > > when
> > > > > > > > masks are off and eyes are locked together.
>
> > > > > > > > On May 15, 9:08 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > faces may portray one thing, but the eyes are the window to
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > soul.
> > > > > > > > > somebody could be in a lot of pain and grimacing because of
> > > > > > > > > such...they might look offensive yet be the sweetest person
> > > around.
> > > > > > > > > facial expressions can be faked or portray the wrong
> > > message...just
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > some are able to pass lie detector tests while they are in
> > > > > > > > > fact
> > > > > > > > > guilty, and vice versa...
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 15, 7:52 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone had a chance to see the BBC series "The
> > > Human
> > > > > > Face"
> > > > > > > > > > with John Cleese who tells us that there are thousands human
> > > > > > > > > > expressions that convey different emotions. There is a
> > > science to
> > > > > > > > > > understanding this, and here in the US, there is a prime
> > > > > > > > > > time
> > > show
> > > > > > > > > > that (in a feeble and sensational attempt) shows us how,
> > > > > > > > > > with
> > > the
> > > > > > CIA
> > > > > > > > > > experts cracking cases by reading the faces of suspects. It
> > > is
> > > > > > funny
> > > > > > > > > > that they will show us the face of contempt on a suspect,
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > then
> > > > > > > > > > flash to the face of Hillary Clinton with the same
> > > expression,
> > > > > > mocking
> > > > > > > > > > many of the world leaders who, at least for a moment, put
> > > their
> > > > > > mask
> > > > > > > > > > down and were caught on camera doing so.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Interpreting the masks around us, I think, must be more
> > > intuitive
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > mechanical. What a colossal waste of time it would be to
> > > walk
> > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > > constantly, looking at faces and translating expressions. I
> > > think
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > do it quite naturally and intuitively, and might only need
> > > the
> > > > > > > > > > practice if we were running into trouble with it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 12:00 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > and integrity. But I wonder if we, ourselves, understand
> > > how we
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > > masks to face the world. As rigsy said, the mask of a
> > > rebel can
> > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > > > > us to push against authority or each other. The mask of
> > > the
> > > > > > warrior
> > > > > > > > > > > can allow us to defend a loved one when we are, at our
> > > core,
> > > > > > peaceful
> > > > > > > > > > > people. The mask of a lover can allow us to say Olive
> > > > > > > > > > > you,
> > > when
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > are shy. I think the masks themselves allow us to try on
> > > and
> > > > > > step
> > > > > > > > > > > into aspects of self that haven't been tried or aren't
> > > normally
> > > > > > > > > > > comfortable. At some point, if we find our comfort zone
> > > wearing
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > mask, we can take it off and integrate the aspect of
> > > > > > > > > > > being.
> > > This
> > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > > > be more along the line of what Joseph Campbell may have
> > > been
> > > > > > > > > > > thinking. We each go through our lives searching inwardly
> > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > externally for purpose or place in the world. The masks
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > God
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > masks we use all uncover the same thing eventually.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 9:23 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > There is always a sense of comfort in knowing one can be
> > > truly
> > > > > > oneself
> > > > > > > > > > > > when around others without having to use a mask.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 8:07 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we can resurrect the mask discussion, rigsy.
> > > > > > Ultimately, if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we are feeling one thing and purposefully expressing
> > > another,
> > > > > > we don a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mask. Our reasons may be noble, as to protect a loved
> > > one,
> > > > > > or self
> > > > > > > > > > > > > serving, as to drive our own agenda. But in the
> > > moment, we
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > choosing the mask instead of a legitimate feeling that
> > > allows
> > > > > > us to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > connect with others that does not require a mask. We
> > > can
> > > > > > choose our
> > > > > > > > > > > > > feelings and how we express them.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 13, 4:07 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also costume denotes hierarchy and a wealth of
> > > material
> > > > > > signals from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > cars to homes to t-shirts and tatoos. A certain
> > > > > > unassailable grace of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > posture and poise to a slouch. We pick and choose
> > > from the
> > > > > > infinite
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > variety.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 11:50 pm, Vamadevananda <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deception implies intent.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most inscrutable masks we wear are the ones we
> > > are
> > > > > > not even aware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Inscrutability Level of the masks we wear are
> > > in the
> > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > increasing order :
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Body, Face, Apparent Expressions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Emotions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought. Intent.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowledge. Facts.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Idea we have of ourself - Ego.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The series does not end here ! Only, I do not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know
> > > how
> > > > > > to express
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ... Primordial ... perhaps.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 8:28 pm, "[email protected]" <
> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would answer no he does not ware a mask, to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all
> > > of
> > > > > > those questions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed it is this very idea that we put masks on
> > > that I
> > > > > > am incliened
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to disbelieve. What is meant by the word mask,
> > > do we
> > > > > > mean only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deception?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 16:17, Molly Brogan <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You tell me. If he is lying, and tells you he
> > > is
> > > > > > lying, where is the
>
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