Umm then what did you mean by 'belifes of all kind...'?
On 20 May, 19:28, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
> i was referring to belief in a diety...i DO think on occasion ;-^)
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> On May 20, 10:55 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Meh! Belifes you have don't kind yourself.
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> > When you say:
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> > 'i think our emotions are sorta tied to our imagination, and later to
> > our spirit...' That is a belife, as is evidanced by he words I
> > think. You did not say I know, so you can't claim it as knowledge.
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> > It really don't matter if you use a word incorrectly, a word means
> > what a word means, and you certianly hold belifes even if you refuse
> > to call them such.
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> > On 20 May, 15:40, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > belief of all kinds is daft imo... well, maybe not daft since a lot of
> > > people somehow find comfort in their beliefs... belief to me simply
> > > means 'the lack of knowledge'...if one KNOWS something, isnt belief
> > > redundant? ... faith and belief are 2 words that i never use to
> > > describe my experiences
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> > > On May 20, 10:08 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > Heh then I can only respond in one way. 'buck, buck, buck, buck'
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> > > > In all seriousness though. I can claim that I think the moon is made
> > > > of cheese, but without explaining how I come to such conclusion, then
> > > > you can call me nuts.
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> > > > A link between emotions and imagineation? Well maybe, I'll not rule
> > > > it out. But the belife that our emotions are tied in with our spirit,
> > > > in light of all the evidance that says our emotions are in our brain,
> > > > well that's faith based belife.
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> > > > Nowt wrong with that, but to my mind belife not tempered with
> > > > rationality, well that's plain daft, innit?
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> > > > On 20 May, 14:52, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > i think many emotions are biological human reactions, but once spirit
> > > > > enters the equations things change a bit and get fuzzy from my
> > > > > experience...i think its hard to separate the two...lets see....do
> > > > > other animals have depression, anger, or bad hair days? i really dont
> > > > > think they do except for maybe the highly intelligent ones that have
> > > > > been grossly mistreated. its dont think a bull is angry when it
> > > > > attacks a matador, but simply protecting itself.
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> > > > > a friend of mine had his house robbed when his wife and young baby
> > > > > were home. he also had two dobermans lying around the house who did
> > > > > nothing. he bought an attack trained doberman and, before he had even
> > > > > taken it home, brought it over to my house to show off this massive
> > > > > pile of teeth. he asked me to pick up a piece of firewood and pretend
> > > > > to attack him. i demurred but he assured me that it would be ok. he
> > > > > had the dog on a lunge rope. i swung the log and he said 'watch'...the
> > > > > dog was instant teeth and foam, its incisors inches from my neck.
> > > > > right after he did that, the dog walked up to me with tail wagging and
> > > > > we became friends...the thing wasnt mad at me at all, just doing his
> > > > > job, but i was scared to even talk after that in case i inadvertantly
> > > > > said the attack word!
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> > > > > i think our emotions are sorta tied to our imagination, and later to
> > > > > our spirit...so i dont know how to answer your question!...its sorta a
> > > > > soupy topic, with lots of ingredients and sometimes hard to
> > > > > distinguish one from another...so ill plead the 5th ;-^)
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> > > > > On May 20, 8:12 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > Ahhhh now that is a seperate thing entirly.
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> > > > > > No the clue as to what the spirt is, is in the word. Spirt is
> > > > > > spirit,
> > > > > > or not matter. Then some people don't beilvie in such a thing, so
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > take that line of argument with will not move the dialoge onwards.
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> > > > > > Do you tend to argue that all emotion is a function of spirt then?
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> > > > > > On 20 May, 12:28, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > is the spirit biological?
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> > > > > > > On May 20, 6:18 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Heh but then you would be wrong.
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> > > > > > > > Every thought and every emotion we have is purely biology, how
> > > > > > > > can it
> > > > > > > > not be?
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> > > > > > > > I don't think that understanding this limits the concept of
> > > > > > > > love.
> > > > > > > > Rather like understanding how a combustion engine works in no
> > > > > > > > way
> > > > > > > > invalidates peoples feelings for their cars.
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> > > > > > > > Do you really belive then that the more you know about any given
> > > > > > > > subject the less 'vaule' is placed on it? That seems ludicrus
> > > > > > > > to me.
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> > > > > > > > On 19 May, 16:27, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > here is one of the viewers comments to the link you gave me
> > > > > > > > > "if love
> > > > > > > > > is truly only biochemical cocktails of the brain then thats
> > > > > > > > > just about
> > > > > > > > > the saddest thing I have ever heard. Limiting love to biology
> > > > > > > > > is like
> > > > > > > > > limiting religion to anthropology. Wrong tool for the job,
> > > > > > > > > you are
> > > > > > > > > truly only scratching the surface." ...i tend to agree ;-^)
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> > > > > > > > > On May 19, 11:18 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > 2009/5/19 e_space <[email protected]>
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> > > > > > > > > > > in my opinion, 'god' is not an entity that can be viewed
> > > > > > > > > > > or proven.
> > > > > > > > > > > tell me that you have experienced love, and then prove it
> > > > > > > > > > > to me...see
> > > > > > > > > > > where the problem lies?
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> > > > > > > > > > Not really, an MRI ought to clear up any confusion:
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> > > > > > > > > >http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/helen_fisher_studies_the_brain_in_...
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