It is not ad hom but an expression of his belief mistaken though it is. You seem to be a bit uptight.
On May 20, 10:19 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > Tinker, your third paragraph is clear ad hominem. I'm getting a little tired > of repeating myself about the posting guidelines. Take it down or you go > back on moderation. > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > You start off making a claim to superiority with imaginary back up, > > ooohh you're so smart. > > > I know that they can cause your superior spiritual feeling by > > suppressing the orientation center in the brain of anyone, including > > atheist. > > > The collective intelligence is the source of insight, inspiration and > > revelation. If you don't understand that you're a lot stupider than > > you make out for atheist to be. > > > So you are ignorant of Jehovah? You deny the supreme being that is the > > one true God. You are an atheist and all of the crap you have been > > spewing is yours to own. Suck it up :-) > > I know your 'transcendental', it is escapism because you haven't the > > ability to deal with Life as it is here and now. > > > You haven't done anything but flaunt yourself as being spiritually > > superior. > > I'm an obnoxious know it all type and you make me look meek and > > humble :-) > > > peace & Love > > > On May 20, 7:22 pm, omprem <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On May 20, 5:04 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On May 20, 8:39 am, omprem <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On May 19, 8:05 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > You are so right, attachment to Life is an addiction, if you are > > not > > > > > > attached to Life you are DEAD. > > > > > > OMPREM: Nope. All death means is a change of venue: 'you' still > > exist > > > > > in another form on another plane of existence. > > > > > Prove it. Die, then repeat that statement, I'll be listening :-) > > > > OMPREM: If you had the capacity to hear astral beings you would not > > > be here whining about them. > > > > > > > It is total BS to say Life is an obstacle to accessing God. If you > > are > > > > > > dead your brain does Not generate the mind which is the only means > > by > > > > > > which any person here and now or at any time in the past has ever > > > > > > accessed God. > > > > > > OMPREM: There are many centers of consciousness besides the mind. > > > > > Moreover, the mind survives death along with everything else except > > > > > the physical body. Your mistake is to equate the mind and > > > > > consciousness as originating with brain function. > > > > > There is one center of consciousness, the brain. Your fantasy has no > > > > substance, my brain does. > > > > I'm very familiar with the realm of your beliefs. I know what you're > > > > talking about and it is your imagination boosted by dogma. > > > > OMPREM: You are sadly out of touch even with 'discoveries' in the > > > scientific community. You could start with Dr. Candace Pert's, > > > Molecules of Emotion and then get back to me. It's OK, go ahead, > > > google her because I know you have not heard of her. > > > > > > > Your dogma is nothing but one of many different descriptions of > > > > > > something that is common to all mankind. The connection in our > > brain > > > > > > generated mind is to our collective intelligence and it's called by > > a > > > > > > hundred different names to support ones own personal glorification > > and > > > > > > excuse to put someone else down as inferior. > > > > > > OMPREM: Wrong. But the answer is right in front of you. If it is the > > > > > brain that is totally responsible for the existence of the mind how > > > > > then can there be 'collective intelligence'? > > > > > The brain produces an energy that reaches beyond the physical being > > > > and unites as the collective intelligence. It's very simple, no > > > > mystical BS about it. > > > > OMPREM: This is too good to pass up. Now I know you atheists claim to > > > value reason, logic and empiricism so show me this 'collective > > > intelligence' and tell me how you know about it (on an empirical basis > > > of course.) Is it something like the collective intelligence of > > > lemmings as they hurtle over the cliff? > > > > > > According to your brain = consciousness theory there can only be > > conventionally-held beliefs, > > > > > that is individual beliefs that people have also agreed upon. > > > > > How do you come up with that? My brain = consciousness theory? > > > > > But > > > > > > 'collective intelligence' which you also claim to believe in is > > > > > different from those conventional beliefs. With 'collective > > > > > intelligence' you are getting into Oneness and the paranormal, two > > > > > areas that atheists deny. > > > > > The collective intelligence doesn't store BS. I'm an atheist by any > > > > dogmatic definition of God. I understand the One and know there are > > > > 'paranormal' things. > > > > Your ignorance of what an atheist believes is showing :-) > > > > OMPREM: You seem to be labouring under the misconception that > > > religion posits an individualized God and you are wrong. No religion > > > claims that God is an individual. > > > > Here's a hint: Religions say God is everywhere all the time and that > > > it is all God. This, of course, means that God is not an individual > > > because for God to be an individual there has to be somewhere where > > > God is not which not possible according to religions. Do you get it > > > now? > > > > > > > You need to get over your personal claim to superiority and > > recognize > > > > > > the fact that our collective intelligence is God, as far as Life on > > > > > > Earth is concerned. Your personal dogma is the support of > > selfishness. > > > > > > And the world is going down the tube because of it. > > > > > OMPREM: I agree that collective intelligence is God but so too > > > > > therefore must each part of the collective intelligence be God. It's > > > > > all God. > > > > > Yes. So? > > > > It is your refusal to accept your own true nature and leads > > > > > > you to mistakenly categorize others who do so as 'selfish'. > > > > > I Am, a Live human. There is no selfishness to that claim by any > > > > other. > > > > OMPREM: This is another mistake that atheists make. They focus > > > exclusively on the physical aspect of being human and are completely > > > unaware of the transcendental aspect. More sadly, because of their > > > type of consciousness that locks them into sense impressions, they > > > are utterly incapable of knowing the transcendental about themselves. > > > > > Those > > > > > others, such as me, who are aware of and identify with their Divine > > > > > nature are most assuredly not selfish because to be selfish is to be > > > > > unaware of one's ultimate nature and to think of themselves as > > > > > individual entities. > > > > > To flaunt your divine nature for self glorification and to claim > > > > superiority IS selfish. > > > > OMPREM: And yet I didn't do that. > > > > > Selfish is to stand outside of that collective > > > > > > consciousness and not know God. That seems to describe you by your > > own > > > > > admission. But all works out over time. > > > > > So you are saying that somebody can separate them self from the One? > > > > I can't do that. > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > On May 19, 1:32 pm, omprem <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Patanjali said that attachment to life is an addiction and an > > obstacle > > > > > > > to accessing God. > > > > > > > > In addition, there is a bit of equivocation on the use of the > > phrase > > > > > > > 'has to use' as opposed to 'uses'. The difference is quite > > > > > > > pronounced. > > > > > > > > On May 19, 11:28 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > RE: addiction > > > > > > > > Many years ago, a very wise friend of mine defined > > quantitatively what > > > > > > > > addiction was in a startling, to me, way. He said that anything > > (not > > > > > > > > needed for life/sustenance) that one has to use at least once > > every > > > > > > > > two weeks represented an addiction….of sorts. Here, I’m using a > > > > > > > > specific meaning for the term…more like a psychic compensation. > > > > > > > > > On May 19, 4:28 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So your addicted too, fran? Gee, where would you place > > yourself on > > > > > > > > > the oomp scale of 1 to 10 on coffee addiction? > > > > > > > > > > On May 19, 3:30 am, frantheman <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, ID, I visited the Netherlands for a couple of hours > > last Friday! > > > > > > > > > > One of the items I stocked up on was original Senseo coffee > > pads, they > > > > > > > > > > cost twice as much in Germany :-) > > > > > > > > > > > On 19 Mai, 09:18, iam deheretic <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You haven't told me what you have difficult about my > > comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is easy enough i believe you would sit in copyright > > infringement, > > > > > > > > > > > simply because what you have said about spirituality is > > not original.. most > > > > > > > > > > > of it is either quoted or paraphrased from what others > > have said. As I read > > > > > > > > > > > what you say I find it difficult to believe you are not a > > fundamentalist > > > > > > > > > > > christian, despite what you say to the contrary. They can > > talk a lot of talk > > > > > > > > > > > but sadly they tend to lack insight as to the meaning of > > the words they say, > > > > > > > > > > > as a group. But there are some that do tend to rise above > > this tendency. > > > > > > > > > > > Your hatred of others and their belief show me that you > > are insecure in your > > > > > > > > > > > own beliefs, and there is a lot of confusion going on > > within you. Your > > > > > > > > > > > hatred of atheist tells me you are afraid you are one > > deep inside, and that > > > > > > > > > > > frightens you > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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