"the opposition to spirit" = rule overrules right

"And so, evil as behavior, becomes relative." = The segment of Society
has specific 'rule' that 'direction' enforces.

 "As we place our identity more in these than in our own spiritual
nature, the forces of "evil" are winning." = Our spiritual nature is
overruled by the 'direction' of Society.

"I will say that I think we need to **look beyond our own or someone
else's individual behavior to understand**
evil, and include that which takes us collectively away from unity
though good, and into separation."
Maybe the 'direction' of Society? :-)

peace & Love


On Jun 25, 7:17 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am not sure that the concept of evil has been or is limited to
> behavior.  Theosophy and Anthroposophy, Hermetics and other systems
> all include ideas of evil that are inherent in us and life, and form
> the opposition to spirit.  Christianity is based on the well known
> story of Adam and Eve;s fall from grace, having tasted the fruit of
> the tree of knowledge of good and evil and tempted by Lucifer to do
> so.  To my thinking, much of what we know, are aware of and experience
> includes opposition and the spectrum that lies between.  This is often
> how we measure change.  Good and evil, bad and good, right and wrong,
> all concepts of duality that we form as a way to understand our
> experience.
>
> I thought the movie with Kate Winslett, The Reader, was fascinating
> because it presented the notion that we cannot judge the German people
> who participated in Nazi society during the war on the basis of
> morality, or even on a legal basis of our time, but must judge them
> according to the laws of their own society in their own time.  This
> really speaks to the concept of "our reality" and how our behavior is
> effected by our cultural norms, survival needs and societal laws of
> our place and time.  Which is different from other places and times.
> And so, evil as behavior, becomes relative.
>
> Rudolph Steiner does a good job of defining the notion of opposition
> (good and evil) in volumes that address his idea of the Christ and
> universal opposing forces.  His idea is that through epochs of time,
> there are three different opposing forces that call each of us away
> from spirit, unity consciousness, or the Christ.  We are currently in
> the epoch of the Azurus, that manifests in material possession and
> technology.  As we place our identity more in these than in our own
> spiritual nature, the forces of "evil" are winning.
>
> While I think there is a genius in his insight into what distracts us
> and what connects us on a soul level, there is much of his philosophy/
> theosophy that loses me.  But I will say that I think we need to look
> beyond our own or someone else's individual behavior to understand
> evil, and include that which takes us collectively away from unity
> though good, and into separation.
>
> On Jun 25, 6:09 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Till this topic was brought up I never really looked at the definition of
> > evil, what I had in my mind verses what is defined.  Yes it would be acts
> > and not a force that are seen as evil.  I think you are right intent needs
> > to be part of the equation.
>
> > I wonder how often the word is missed used.
> > Allan
>
> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:19 AM, [email protected] <
>
> > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > So evil is not a force but some acts of mankind can be seen as evil?
> > > I guess then intent needs to be part of this equation?
>
> > --
> > (
> >  )
> > I_D Allan
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