Collective anger is interesting . It leaves me wondering who is controlling it. In Red Handed discussion there is tremendous violence demonstrated and used for control. As for the people being angry. could they be frustrated, with supposed religious leadership using violence and fear to control, it would seem to be more frustration than anger.
To me it seems in the majority of people have a deep seated need to believe in something greater than them selves. looking at Iran, I can not help but wonder what is really going on. Allan On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is a very nice examination of the emotion contained in the > anarchy that ensues as a result of suppression, Vam. It is > fascinating (and horrifying) to watch the collective expression of > anger in anarchy. > > I think that anger, and its primary emotion fear, are ego based > emotions. If we are witnessing ourselves expressing less and less > anger, it is probably because we are not primarily centered in our > ego. Ego based desire - what I want - and its frustration is often > the cause, and if expressed without consideration of others, can be > destructive. Ego based anger can also be expressed in consideration > of others, and the outcome is usually more palatable for all > involved. > > If our view looks beyond our ego, includes the broader perspectives of > self as other and absolute truth in spirit, the integrated expression > of anger simply becomes I am not and I am. Here is where anger of > others becomes a mirror to shadow self, and anger arising in self can > be witnessed in patterns that have a more soulful revelation of who I > am. > > Beyond that, there is only love and I am. > > On Jun 27, 12:42 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > " ... anger must be closely examined and scrutinized before rendering > > judgment on the justification of it." > > > > I would imagine that the justification prescription includes the > > aftermath of anger, in time, as in how it gets channelised, how the > > energy ' balled up ' in it is used, to render the situation better > > than what it was before, for oneself and for us all. > > > > Take the Iranian " anger." I have no doubt that despite the seeming ' > > losses ' and failure, the pain caused to thousands of innocents, the > > people's expression of anger has furthered the momentum for change for > > the better, even if the value - system and world - view of the ' > > rulers ' may not actually change in, say, the next five or ten years, > > and people must live with their smothered anger and exacerbated pain > > and despair, their sense of loss and extreme doubt, in the > > meanwhile ... when life is meaningless and a mere exercise in sheer > > darkness. > > > > Then, in the aftermath of their anger, people who do not know will > > need to hope, in order to act. The few who do know will lead in their > > conviction, by the fire of their trust in truth. And, the perpetrators > > will enter into even greater madness, knowing their sham and their > > looming ' end.' Untill, the cathartic moment is upon us all, and the > > forces for the next change begins to build up. > > > > That 's the fuller picture, the context to anger and our judgement of > > it, as I see it. > > > > On Jun 27, 7:10 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Much of anger is based on disappointment in ourselves, our inability > > > to affect the outcome of situations and the behavior of others. > > > Aristotle addresses anger as “A desire accompanied by pain, for a > > > conspicuous revenge for a conspicuous slight at the hands of men who > > > have no call to slight oneself or one’s friends”. We want and desire > > > results which when not realized results in the disappointment that Ari > > > refers to as pain. We all have a predisposition for anger especially > > > when slighted, insulted without basis, falsely accused. I think our > > > desires and failure to see them materialize have a great deal to do > > > with anger. There is also debate on whether anger is natural to > > > humanity or an unnatural emotion, I think it is natural and functional > > > as well as a necessary element in overall mental health. There are > > > many levels of anger. From the simple disgruntle to the violent > > > outburst so therefore the elements of the anger must be closely > > > examined and scrutinized before rendering judgment on the > > > justification of it. > > > > > On Jun 26, 7:58 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > A letter to a friend brought up the idea of anger being an mirror of > my > > > > self. It seems I do not get angry much anymore, put out and disgusted > by > > > > peoples decisions, especially when they harm others or of self > interest. > > > > When I do get angry I find it is over what I do not like in myself, > defects > > > > of character . > > > > Allan > > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
